I'm sure there would be some changes but don't think it'll be so bad that a drastic change would occur.
I think what that guy said about entertainment is recession proof is pretty true.
I can't use firefox anymore. I downloaded the new one and it keeps fucking locking up on me. Good thing for session recovery though.
Supposedly, the U.S. has hit the worst and is going to start slowly rebounding. Or thats what the analyts are saying... the same analysts who preidtced 15% market share for the Wii I wonder?
Anyway, I think this will help video games. What, Wii prices are going to go to $60 and PS360 games go to $70 becuase I gas prices? I doubt it.
People are going to stay closer to home as the cost of traveling increases. More parties; beer sales will rise. What else do people like to have at parties nowadays? Wii sales should rise as well...
| Mifely said: Lemme highlight some stuff first. (1) Physical media is about to become a lot more expensive (well, heck, everything from food to electric power is)... because it needs to be both produced and shipped by oil-based industries. Everything from the plastic coating on the discs, to the packaging is made primarily from oil, and the components of the "non-plastic" parts are usually manufactured with or dependant on oil as well. Shipping costs will skyrocket (for obvious reasons), and every last "ingredient" in every game and console component is shipped from somewhere -- often very long distances. Usually the amount of oil used in their production is pretty hefty as well. (2) Games are entertainment. As the US economy slumps, so will the rest of the world (although not as much, IMO). Entertainment products are usually the first to go. Or are they? (3) What affect will console demographics have on this? Will PS3/360 owners buy more games, because they are more likely to be devoted gamers? Will the Wii drop drastically (I should say "more drastically"), due to its appeal to the general populace (i.e. the group most stricken with economic woes). (4) Will gaming pick up, due to its relative lesser expense than driving to a movie, seeing a pro-sports game, cheaper-over-time than rental movies, etc.?
I'm sure this will spark some serious disagreements over exactly what the oil issue means to the world, but try to keep it on topic. =) |
(1) These costs as they relate to gaming are pretty tiny ... manufacturing and distribution of most games represents (maybe) $2 on a typical game.
(2) Entertainment is a necessity and videogames are (in general) a pretty inexpensive form of entertainment; in a recession most people end up lowering their cost associated to necessities by switching to more inexpensive forms.
(3) Because of #2 gaming in general (and more inexpensive forms of gaming like the PS2, DS and Wii specifically) will fair pretty well unless people are forced to reduce their spending far beyond what even the most pessimistic predictions anticipate
(4) Yes, because of #2
Not to worry, gaming will be pretty much unaffected by the current gas prices, as will pretty much the entire entertainment industry. The current situation is an interesting one in that the rising oil prices have nothing to do with a shortage like in the 70's (theres plenty to go around for everyone currently), and everything to do with the current economic situation here in America and abroad and the ever increasing demand from countries like China.
And its not going to get any better unless we rely more on our own resources... A.K.A. more drilling and building more refineries and power plants. The reason countries like China's economies are growing so fast is that they are investing in their own infrastructure as opposed to relying on foreign markets for goods and supplies. We in the good old US of A on the other hand are too concerned with being "environmentally friendly" and all the false glowbull worming propaganda to stop sitting on our hands and actually do something constructive about our energy problem. Windmills and solar panels ain't gonna do shit in the long run, and neither is driving an "Ego-friendly" car like a Prius or running your car off vegetable oil... did you guys know that thanx to all the crops being bought up and used for trendy bio-fuels, the prices of raw goods have skyrocketed and people in some 3rd world countries are starving because they can't even afford the price of their own food!
On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.
Gaming will be fine though other forms of entertainment will (and Have already) take(n) a hit.(Look at comic book sells they were down in the first quarter for the first time in three years. Of course there are factors in that as well... No huge crossovers like Civil War for instance. so even those will probably go up with Final Crisis and Secret Invasion.) But I think in the end all entertainment sectors will recover so we are fine.
Boycotting the following:
1. Yoshi: He ate my car and spit out a toaster.
2. Igglybuff: Totally false advertisement. You can have as many as you like they don't buff nothing.
3. the Terms Hardcore/Softcore... We're talking Video Games. Not Porn.
4. The term Casual as relates to Gamers: We make them sound like outsider's that happen to play games. If that were the case they'd own a PS3.
5. Donuts.... Beacause I drink Beer...... and the biggest fan of Donuts hates Beer.
6. Boycotts: Their so lame.
| NightDragon83 said: Not to worry, gaming will be pretty much unaffected by the current gas prices, as will pretty much the entire entertainment industry. The current situation is an interesting one in that the rising oil prices have nothing to do with a shortage like in the 70's (theres plenty to go around for everyone currently), and everything to do with the current economic situation here in America and abroad and the ever increasing demand from countries like China. And its not going to get any better unless we rely more on our own resources... A.K.A. more drilling and building more refineries and power plants. The reason countries like China's economies are growing so fast is that they are investing in their own infrastructure as opposed to relying on foreign markets for goods and supplies. We in the good old US of A on the other hand are too concerned with being "environmentally friendly" and all the false glowbull worming propaganda to stop sitting on our hands and actually do something constructive about our energy problem. Windmills and solar panels ain't gonna do shit in the long run, and neither is driving an "Ego-friendly" car like a Prius or running your car off vegetable oil... did you guys know that thanx to all the crops being bought up and used for trendy bio-fuels, the prices of raw goods have skyrocketed and people in some 3rd world countries are starving because they can't even afford the price of their own food! |
Actually, they are having trouble producing enough oil, there were several reasons for the bottleneck. We are not definitely not the only country getting hit hard, the Japs, for example, are as well. So you are saying we should not look for alternative fuel sources? We should not progress as a species to better, more efficient means? Wow. Using produce for fuel means is definitely not driving up food costs, recent disasters, however, have. Wind turbines could account for %20 of the nations supply of power by 2020, underwater currents are being investigated as a power source, we need to progress.
You are all morons. (I mean that in a nice way)
Yes oil prices are bad, but I have a strong feeling that oil prices will collapse. Also alterative fuels are RIGHT around the corner... if the oil prices do continue to rise than it will help usher in a new era of energy... Hydrogen... The tech is there, it is just being perfected. Within 10 years over 50% of all cars will be running off of water and air... greatly releaving the oil demand.
Sorry to reign on many of you end-of-world predictions...
End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)
Wii- 72 million 3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases
360- 37 million Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak
PS3- 29 million Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut
JaggedSac said:
Actually, they are having trouble prodvucing enough oil, there were several reasons for the bottleneck. We are not definitely not the only country getting hit hard, the Japs, for example, are as well. So you are saying we should not look for alternative fuel sources? We should not progress as a species to better, more efficient means? Wow. Using produce for fuel means is definitely not driving up food costs, recent disasters, however, have. Wind turbines could account for %20 of the nations supply of power by 2020, underwater currents are being investigated as a power source, we need to progress. |
Can we please stop using words like "the japs." I shouldn't have to be bringing this up.
currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X
What Oil crysis? There are oil trusts that are public and everyone can invest in. If you bought a share 2 years ago it would have doubled already. If people think its going to keep going up they should invest in it.
I agree with BIGJON, he is a smart guy. You can see people already adapting.
Plus the US still pays less for gas than alot of places in the world.
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