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Pristine20 on 10 June 2008
Aiemond said:
Andrex said:
Wii deserves these RPGs. >:/

I agree. I would love to have them on the wii. This is just to explain why MS is doing this. It's a lose for many consumers, but a win for the corperation.


 You seem very proud of M$ for doing this yet you admit that the real fans of these games won't get to play them even on the wii. Gaming is starting to make no sense at all.



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Pristine20 on 10 June 2008
Slimebeast said:
Yes, there might be a dose of distruption strategy on MS' part, but you forget a whole lot of other reasons:

* MS is putting effort on having global simultaneous release of these JPRGs. It shows that they're treating JRPGs in a respectful way. That suggests they have a deeper plan than to just disrupt Sony.

* Most JRPG sales occur in the West, no matter what console.

* Many Japanese devs have expressed their interest to expand into the Western market (even more). They want a viable platform. It makes sense from both perspectives, not just for MS, to release some JRPGs for the X360.

* MS wants to build up a good reputation among Japanese devs, and gamers all over the world that it's to be taken seriously not just in this gen, but probably even more so for Xbox 3

* The need to broaden the game library. The X360 is today perceived as a hard-core/shooter platform, which is not good if you have a bigger plan.
I don't know about the line in bold. DQ sells more in the West...I'm confused.

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Riachu on 10 June 2008
Pristine20 said:
Slimebeast said:
Yes, there might be a dose of distruption strategy on MS' part, but you forget a whole lot of other reasons:

* MS is putting effort on having global simultaneous release of these JPRGs. It shows that they're treating JRPGs in a respectful way. That suggests they have a deeper plan than to just disrupt Sony.

* Most JRPG sales occur in the West, no matter what console.

* Many Japanese devs have expressed their interest to expand into the Western market (even more). They want a viable platform. It makes sense from both perspectives, not just for MS, to release some JRPGs for the X360.

* MS wants to build up a good reputation among Japanese devs, and gamers all over the world that it's to be taken seriously not just in this gen, but probably even more so for Xbox 3

* The need to broaden the game library. The X360 is today perceived as a hard-core/shooter platform, which is not good if you have a bigger plan.
I don't know about the line in bold. DQ sells more in the West...I'm confused.

 

@Pristine20

I'm just as confused as you are 

 



 

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Aiemond on 10 June 2008
Pristine20 said:
Aiemond said:
Andrex said:
Wii deserves these RPGs. >:/

I agree. I would love to have them on the wii. This is just to explain why MS is doing this. It's a lose for many consumers, but a win for the corperation.


You seem very proud of M$ for doing this yet you admit that the real fans of these games won't get to play them even on the wii. Gaming is starting to make no sense at all.


No, I'm looking at it from a bussiness strategy standpoint. Personally, I wish all the games were multiplatform because I want to be able to purchase all the games I like without shelling out $1000 for all 3 systems. What my goal was is to clear up why MS is doing this. Many people are coming up with all these ideas on why MS is buying the JRPGS and I wanted to show why I thik they are doing it and why I think it helps thier business model in the long run. Am I proud of MS? No, it makes me sad that a system is getting exclusives. But do I understand why they are doing it? I believe so. (BTW just so you know, no I don't own an xbox360)

 

Lastly, I don't think Nintendo's goal is a multimeda hub as much as it is a gaming console that everyone can get some use out of. They do not have the goal of going out and making digital downloads, a new movie format, a large music network all in the same box (and for many of those issues, at all).



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Slimebeast on 10 June 2008
Pristine20 said:
Slimebeast said:
Yes, there might be a dose of distruption strategy on MS' part, but you forget a whole lot of other reasons:

* MS is putting effort on having global simultaneous release of these JPRGs. It shows that they're treating JRPGs in a respectful way. That suggests they have a deeper plan than to just disrupt Sony.

* Most JRPG sales occur in the West, no matter what console.

* Many Japanese devs have expressed their interest to expand into the Western market (even more). They want a viable platform. It makes sense from both perspectives, not just for MS, to release some JRPGs for the X360.

* MS wants to build up a good reputation among Japanese devs, and gamers all over the world that it's to be taken seriously not just in this gen, but probably even more so for Xbox 3

* The need to broaden the game library. The X360 is today perceived as a hard-core/shooter platform, which is not good if you have a bigger plan.
I don't know about the line in bold. DQ sells more in the West...I'm confused.

 

 

DQ is the big exception, but in general they do.

Now VGC lacks data from many past JRPGs, but this is what I found:

Dragon Quest VIII
Region  Japan  America  Others Total
Total Sales 3.62m 0.47m 0.60m 4.69m  

FF XII
Region  Japan  America  Others Total
Total Sales 2.42m 1.77m 0.84m 5.03m


Folklore

Region  Japan  America  Others Total
Total Sales 0.05m 0.13m 0.00m 0.18m

 

Star Ocean: Till The End of Time
Region  Japan  America  Others Total
Total Sales 0.55m 0.74m 0.00m 1.29m


Tales of Symphonia (GC, the PS2-sales are unavailable)
Region  Japan  America  Others Total
Total Sales 0.32m 0.55m 0.23m 1.10m
 

Out of 5 games, 4 got most of their sales in the west.

And note that 2 of the games lack Others region data.



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Garcian Smith on 10 June 2008
Aiemond said:

P.S. I'm the final cylon :P

 


 Lies. The final Cylon is obviously Starbuck.



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akuma587 on 10 June 2008

Honestly I think MS should be more worried about Nintendo than Sony, so it all seems kind of pointless in the end.



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