MrBubbles said: What if someone decides certain religions are harmful.....

Weren't you the one talking about the "muslim messiah" in another thread? I blame Barack Obama!

Honestly, I don't think there is too much wrong with taking children away before they become violent jew and gay hating racists. Plus the drugs and alcohol.

If it was just an unpopular belief that is one thing, but a violent hate filled belief system, well that's a different story. If they took kids away from a pair of cannibals, I don't think anyone would complain. I'm as liberal as the next guy, but trying to defend the spreading of neo-nazism to children isn't something I'm willing to defend. The last thing we need is more kids in high school with shaved heads and swastika tattoos bashing kids face into a curb because they might be a "fagot", simply because they had some jackhole of a dad that told them that is what they are supposed to do to "fagots".

Again, I'm liberal but a drug addict teaching neo-nazism to his kids is a tough sell.

The_vagabond7 said: Honestly, I don't think there is too much wrong with taking children away before they become violent jew and gay hating racists. Plus the drugs and alcohol. If it was just an unpopular belief that is one thing, but a violent hate filled belief system, well that's a different story. If they took kids away from a pair of cannibals, I don't think anyone would complain. I'm as liberal as the next guy, but trying to defend the spreading of neo-nazism to children isn't something I'm willing to defend. The last thing we need is more kids in high school with shaved heads and swastika tattoos bashing kids face into a curb because they might be a "fagot", simply because they had some jackhole of a dad that told them that is what they are supposed to do to "fagots". Again, I'm liberal but a drug addict teaching neo-nazism to his kids is a tough sell.

But it's not illegal. The government being able to remove children from their parents based on an idea is a very scary thing.

Mistershine said: PS360ForTheWin said: i dont get it, there parents are nazi drug addicts, you honsestly think thats a safe enviroment for young children? It could be worse. They could be Jehovah's witnesses.

 Could you tell me what is wrong with Jehovah's Witnesses?

tarheel91 said: Mistershine said: PS360ForTheWin said: i dont get it, there parents are nazi drug addicts, you honsestly think thats a safe enviroment for young children? It could be worse. They could be Jehovah's witnesses. Could you tell me what is wrong with Jehovah's Witnesses?

Someone's sarcasm detector is malfunctioning today.

hypothetically....
Even if i were to believe that a particular religion is inherently evil wouldnt mean that i believe their children should be taken away from them or that they should be treated differently in the eyes of the law.

rocketpig said: The_vagabond7 said: Honestly, I don't think there is too much wrong with taking children away before they become violent jew and gay hating racists. Plus the drugs and alcohol. If it was just an unpopular belief that is one thing, but a violent hate filled belief system, well that's a different story. If they took kids away from a pair of cannibals, I don't think anyone would complain. I'm as liberal as the next guy, but trying to defend the spreading of neo-nazism to children isn't something I'm willing to defend. The last thing we need is more kids in high school with shaved heads and swastika tattoos bashing kids face into a curb because they might be a "fagot", simply because they had some jackhole of a dad that told them that is what they are supposed to do to "fagots". Again, I'm liberal but a drug addict teaching neo-nazism to his kids is a tough sell. But it's not illegal. The government being able to remove children from their parents based on an idea is a very scary thing.

 And I doubt every single goverment worker would agree with what was done. The fact of the matter is that it was done by people who work for the government, not some entity labled "government". I don't think we'll see on the news tomorrow that all parents that have questionable opinions on the holocaust are having their kids removed. While on this small isolated scale it can happen, it would never fly on a larger scale, my opinions of nazi's aside. When I see or read that a cop pulled over a black guy and beat the hell out of him because he assumed wrongly that he was armed, I think it sucks but I don't think it's scary that the goverment can just pull anybody over based on racial profiling and beat the hell out of them.

 

Plus it may very well be illegal. Looking at the story again, this is the criteria for removing the children.

"the children may be at risk due to the parents' behavior and associates. The parents might endanger the emotional well-being of the children"

Now this could apply to a number of situations, not just on where somebody holds an unpopular belief. But if that unpopular belief does put your children in danger due to being around violent neo-nazis, and being irrevocably harmed emotionally, then it still applies. Kind of a "if the shoe fits" sort of thing.

rocketpig said: tarheel91 said: Mistershine said: PS360ForTheWin said: i dont get it, there parents are nazi drug addicts, you honsestly think thats a safe enviroment for young children? It could be worse. They could be Jehovah's witnesses. Could you tell me what is wrong with Jehovah's Witnesses? Someone's sarcasm detector is malfunctioning today.

I would assume sarcasm if he was quoting MrBubbles, however, he's quoting some random person.  Not only that, but you have no idea how ignorant some people are about Jehovah's Witnesses.  Some think it's some satanic cult, others thought it was, in fact, a form of neo-Nazism.

MrBubbles said: hypothetically.... Even if i were to believe that a particular religion is inherently evil wouldnt mean that i believe their children should be taken away from them or that they should be treated differently in the eyes of the law.

Hypothetically that means you are bullshitting.