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^^ Also agreed

Cant wait for the second half, hop Holland can keep up their fast paceing



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papflesje said:
If the Italian did it on purpose it would have been no offside.


That doesn't matter one bit. A player outside of the lines is not part of the game, therefore offside. Plain and simple.

They explained the rule again in half time: The defending player outside the goal line counts and therefore it was not offside.

 



Yes it matters (they just told it at VT4 not sure you are watching it on VT4).


VT4 can say all they want, it doesn't matter.

The rules clearly indicate that when a player is off the field, he is not taking active part in the game, therefore he is not overruling offside. Van nistelrooy was offside.

Second goal was a beauty, first one should've been disallowed.

Seriously, read up on the rules :-/



Well show the rules then =p.



Offside trap

The offside trap is a defensive tactic designed to "trap" the attacking team into an offside position. When an attacking player is making a run up the field with a team-mate ready to kick the ball up to him, all the defenders (except the goalkeeper) will move up-field in a relatively straight line in order to put the attacker behind them just before the ball is kicked, hence putting the attacker in an offside position when the ball is kicked. Defenders using this tactic often attempt to bring an attacker's potential offside status to the attention of the assistant referee, typically by shouting or raising their arm.
The use of the trap can be a risky strategy as all the defenders (except the goalkeeper) have to move up together in a relatively straight line, otherwise the attacking players will not be in an offside position as long as they are behind the goalkeeper and a defender that has not moved up; if the offside trap fails, the attacking players will have an almost clear run towards the goal. The 2003 rule changes have made it even more perilous as a tactic, since the definition of active play was made more stringent. Thus, teams attempting an offside trap are less likely to have an offside offence called when they have caught a player in an offside position if he is deemed by the referee to be not in active play.



There ya go.



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Doesn't say anything about what just happened =p.



What konnichiwa said.

Thatmax, we all know how the offside trap works, but what does your post have to do with the specific situation of the 1st Dutch goal?



^^ Thought u asked about whether or not its offside if its on purpose, and it would take long to find that one specific detail in the rules, but im sure thats how it works, pretty sure Iv seen it happen before and all of the English comentators and analysts agree that it was offside.

But anyways Italy looking slighty tired while the Dutch's mental strength as a side seems to be helping them.



This is what I wanted to say Thatmax.

 

 

If the guy with the arrow goes to place A when he sees that someone from the Orange team will pass the ball to the Orange guy the referee will not see it as on offside because the Blue guy does it on purpose..




Congratulations, Dutch fans. Your team is the top favourite for the tournament now.