merkh66 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
merkh66 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
merkh66 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
jman8 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
BTW, the "companies aren't nice" line is bullshit, because that argument didn't hold water for Nintendo in the NES days, and it doesn't hold water for UIbisoft now.
Games are a business, but ALSO an artistic medium. One developer outright denying their best work, with NO REAL REASON, is bullshit.
And defending that is bullshit, because I don't think you'd respect the HD consoles getting crap games to avoid HD development costs. |
Hey, I totally understand why you're upset. If Ubisoft pulled this shit on my PS3, I'd be upset too. But I would look at from Ubisoft's perspective and understand that they did what they thought was best for the company. If it turned out other companies followed Ubisoft's example, I would be pretty pissed I wasted $600. But when you spend money on systems early on in their lives, the risk you take is that the games you want don't show up on your system of choice. When it doesn't work out how you wanted, you either stick with your system or get a different one. I wish my Dreamcast could have lived on longer but lack of third party support (especially the lack of EA sports games) had a hand in defeating that system. I moved on to the PS2 and Gamecube. |
The Dreamcast was losing money, and sales slowed when the PS2 came along. And this is not spending on the Wii early in it's life. The system is well along. There has been no real proof big budget games don't sell on the Wii, so Ubisoft pretending it is so is what is really pissing us off. That's also what merkh isn't acknowledging. It's that Ubisoft is telling lies to justify their position. |
Wait a second, I never said Ubisoft isn't/didn't lie? I said boohoo what can ya do. They are obviously in the black when it comes to Wii or their development would have been haulted or changed. What jman said could be true, they could be going for a hit or miss type scenario. It seems like the only thing you guys are mad at is a lie from an Ubi rep. Thats why i say get over it, if there was no promise can you honestly say wth Ubi stop giving us this shit? No. So pretend this lie is just like the other hundred lies you hear through the course of a day and get on with life |
It's that they are still telling lies to justify their posotition. It's in the OP. They broke a promise. Okay. They are spinning numbers to justify that promiste breaking. If you think that's not a bad thing, you must think it's a good thing for companies to pretend markets don't exist (in this case, Wii owners who buy hardcore games). It's not a good thing, and companies throughout this industry's history have learned how foolish it is, even Nintendo in the past. |
Forget about the promise already! Did you read my comment? It's not about the promise right now. It's about lies of the Wii's market. And so be it if they need to learn from their mistake (that is if their making one). They probably don't have the resourses to develop big time games for Wii and Ps360, Didn't I earlier state that if that was the case, they should outright admit it? so should they stop developing for something their already good at and can easily port and therefore satisfy two systems userbases? or should they take a risk on wii. Why aren't the HD systems a risk? In order for risk to be worse on the Wii than the HD systems, then there would have to be a better success to failure ratio, with the big budget, and heavily hyped games. They are almost no such games on the Wii to truly determine if the risk is there, so you claim of a risk is just as much of a lie as jman's. You must think that they are retarded as a company, i know it might be hard to understand but its someones job to do this planning and strategizing between the consoles. Ubisoft is/has been a leading developer for years now so they're doing something right, sorry its not going your way... Crying doesnt fix it. Who says we are crying? We are protesting. We are gamers. They need are money. It is our right to insist we get heard. They don't have to listen, but don't you pretend we have no business as gamers being upset at the actions of a gaming company. You think Sony's negative hype around the PS3 launch had no effect on the company's turnaround now? Kaz Harai more or less admitted that was a big problem. |
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1) The promise comment wasn't directed to you. 2) Why would they admit their wrong? I meant admit they just don't want to put the effort into the Wii. They don't need to they're still making money, admitting they're wrong would only further repel gamers, especially if they dont plan to change anytime soon 3) They aren't a risk because they know what they're capable of, Aren't a risk? Don't you know what the word "risk" means? Don't you even know that it is impossible to eliminate risk in whether something will turn a profit, when you aren't dealing with a vital product (like oil, power, water)? Don't you even know that basic business fact? go figure i guess years of developing with Microsoft and Sony taught them a thing or two. By spending more time on wii, they risk compromising PS360 sales which generate most of their revenue. How does spending more time on the Wii compromise HD game sales? Ubisoft is large developer. They have a past on putting different teams on games to avoid such compromising. And I though Ubisoft could just do what they wanted. Why are you giving them an excuse now? 4) You are crying Do you see tears? You can't, therefore that comment is bullshit. You can see our words, but that proves complaining. Not the same thing. We are mad, not greiving. and they don't need your money, they need gamers money, apperently they are getting money from gamers too because last time i checked they arent bankrupt. Straw man. We didn't claim they were desperately in need of our cash. It's that they can get MORE CASH from hardcore Wii owners by giving them actual hardcore games. And as customers, we still have a right to complain. |
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