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psrock said:
I wonder why the attacks?


Because you admitted Sony's defeat, and because of that, now you're a Nintendo fanboy to the eyes of the other Sony fans.

OT: I completely agree with you. I remember seeing Sony's conference back then and thinking "this doesn't looks good..." 



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psrock said:
Right from even before the Console was launch Sony cost themselves this Generation. In Trying to innovate and bringing the best, most advanced HD machine to the market, Sony not only lost billions in operations’, but lost exclusives such Assassins Creed, DMC 4, and more. They were so many promises, so much build up hype which in the end Sony couldn’t achieve. They allowed the Xbox to come out first, they assumed third parties would wait for them even as a 360 was already out and was doing ok especially in the strongest market. They told us about all those great games they had coming which we are still waiting for today. And to end the generation for sure, E3 2006 was the final nail in their coffin, $600 for a console. I remember my jaw dropping in the end of that press conference, I couldn’t believe they thought people were going to flock the stores to buy such an expensive item. It was then, they lost this generation. Nintendo was smart, they saw the market that the ds had reached and took advantage of it. They released something new yet affordable. They didn’t over promised, they showed us and delivered. Sometimes, it’s not about how good or bad the console is, it’s about the people making the decisions which Nintendo showed they surely know how to.

 

The most fitting response to your thread.



Sony's Lost Exclusives: A Timeline
By Chris Kohler July 02, 2007 | 5:00:03 PMCategories: Console Games
Having spent a lot of time this afternoon thinking about all the exclusives that PlayStation 3 has lost over the last tumultuous year, we here at Game|Life decided to catalog them in the runup to E3.

I'm not listing franchises that had been exclusive to Sony systems but now have Xbox versions, because that's not the point and because I don't want to be here all day. The exception to this rule is when a publisher was pursuing an exclusive, but Sony didn't sign on. As in the case of...

Grand Theft Auto IV -- Peter Moore shocked the world at E3 last May when he announced that GTAIV would appear day-and-date on Xbox 360 and PS3. Months later, Newsweek reported that Take Two had wanted to continue its long-standing practice of giving Sony a lengthy timed exclusivity on the game, but they didn't want it.

Newsweek says that former Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi's "radio silence" on the issue left Sony's American execs without the authority to make deals, and nothing happened. Same with...

Assassin's Creed -- Again, Newsweek revealed that Ubisoft had actually gone to Sony with an offer to make the game a PlayStation 3 exclusive. Although Sony did go through the trouble of asking Ubisoft to make it seem as if their multiplatform action game Assassin's Creed was indeed PS3 exclusive , it came out shortly after E3 that it would ship simultaneously on both platforms.

The brief flirtation with pretend exclusivity at E3 that year did get Assassin's Creed noticed, winning it several "PlayStation 3 Game of the Year" awards that it wouldn't have won otherwise. Very similar to what happened with...

Devil May Cry IV -- Another game that was said to be one of the biggest reasons to buy PlayStation 3, and easily the best PS3 title playable at Tokyo Game Show in 2006. A few months later, it was multiplatform, with a simultaneous release date.

Virtua Fighter 5 -- PlayStation 3 fans, count your blessings: at least you're enjoying Virtua Fighter 5 now, instead of later this year when Xbox 360 owners will get their version. Still, though, it's one more exclusive gone.

Beautiful Katamari -- Now, we're getting into the realm of games that PlayStation 3 might have lost entirely. Beautiful Katamari was originally announced for a multiplatform release, but according to Newsweek (helped along by Namco Bandai's curious reticence on the subject), the PS3 version has been junked and it's now Xbox 360-only.

Fatal Inertia -- Originally announced in 2005 as a PlayStation 3 launch title, Koei's racing game first was delayed into this year, then went multiplatform. This morning, it was announced that the PlayStation 3 version is "delayed indefinitely" due to issues with Unreal Engine 3. Where this leaves Koei's BladeStorm -- also announced as a PS3 title, also delayed, also made multiplatform -- is unclear. Koei says its status is not affected as it doesn't use UE3.

What's remarkable about many of these high-profile titles is that they are all from Japanese publishers, who historically have been resistant to the idea of multiplatform games in the first place. Market realities have had a profound effect, and very quickly, on their business practices. Sony is lucky that Xbox 360 was such a non-starter in Japan, because otherwise it would be ever more doubtful that game makers would bother putting together PS3 versions of their games at all.

What's Next? -- The two major remaining third-party exclusives for PlayStation 3 are Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII. Konami has certainly never been resistant to putting Metal Gear titles on different hardware; witness Twin Snakes on GameCube and Substance on Xbox. And Microsoft is likely gunning hard for the game. Also, Konami probably prefers making money to losing truckloads of it. All things considered, I'm pretty sure it's already a done deal, given the fact that we hear very credible rumors about it once a week or so.

So that really only leaves Final Fantasy XIII. We know that Square Enix is not blind to the changes in the market. Last Remnant, their latest RPG franchise, will be released simultaneously on both platforms.

Also, Final Fantasy XIII's release is a long, long way off. The EGM crew says that they will miss their stated goal of having a playable demo ready for E3. And Square Enix says the game won't hit until after March 2008.

So does that mean it'll end up on 360? Ehhhhh no. Maybe. Possibly. No. It could remain PlayStation 3 exclusive, although Square Enix would make way more money if it wasn't. But it's not one of those no-brainers like Metal Gear. We'll see where E3 takes us. Maybe the FFXIII logo will be tattooed on Peter Moore's chest.



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11/20/09 04:25 makingmusic476 Warning Other (Your avatar is borderline NSFW. Please keep it for as long as possible.)

sony didnt let the xbox to come out a year earlier, microsoft rushed the console. and this generation is not over, how do u know they wont keep their promises!



psrock said:
many games were supposed to have been ps3 exclusives, but MS either payed to get them on their side too and they were actually easier to make on the 360.

A lot of it has to do with development costs too. Bioshock did well on the 360 and despite being a definite success, it's being ported over to the PS3. Developers want to get as much money as possible out of their games.

Here are some PS3 games "stolen" by the 360:

Assassin's Creed

Devil May Cry 4

Fatal Inertia

Virtua Fighter 5

Unreal Tournament III

I don't include Grand Theft Auto IV because it wasn't stolen.

Fazz: We've all admitted Sony's defeat. There's very little chance they're going to win this generation. But defeatists make me want to cringe. 

 



 

 

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I will just say this and be gone : If you think Sony decided to launch an elite product (expensive in its category) expecting to dominate market share, then you're delusional. As it's been said countless of times ( I shouldn't even waste my fingertips on this thread as it is) "winning" and "losing", it's all relative. It's not all said and done yet either. So If I were the OP I would let things play out instead of venting frustration over a redundant thread.



But, the problem is, the ps3 shouldnt have bee more successful than it is today. I'm not just accepting defeat, i'm discussing the reasons why and what couldnt have been different.



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11/20/09 04:25 makingmusic476 Warning Other (Your avatar is borderline NSFW. Please keep it for as long as possible.)

Its a marathon, not a sprint.
Everything is still possible. And as it stands, Sony's got a lot of aces up their sleeve.



Prodigy_BE said:
Its a marathon, not a sprint.
Everything is still possible. And as it stands, Sony's got a lot of aces up their sleeve.

What have they got that the Wii and Xbox 360 don't have?

Exclusives?

Hardware redesigns?

Price advantage? 

All of I can think of is their brandname, and thats slightly diminished nowadays. 



 

 

HOW is GTA IV a lost exclusive

NO GTA has EVER been Exclusive to Playstation..



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