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Install base. If a console is THUMPING the others, like the Wii, they want to put their games on it.




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ikilledkenny said:
Install base. If a console is THUMPING the others, like the Wii, they want to put their games on it.

But why take the risks if no one is buying it?

*bleu-ocelot* said:
MontanaHatchet said:
The Wii actually gets the highest amount of third party support and has a higher attach rate than the PS3. I don't know where you're getting your facts from.

 

Link? and i meant quality 3rd party support or should i refer you to "The ratio of good to bad games" thread?

 Hmm, when you mean something, you should specify.

And if you need to see that the Wii gets the most third party support, just look at a list of upcoming games. Or check out the lists on Wikipedia. 

As for the attach rate, it has been said several times. But here are some figures from only about a month ago.



 

 

*bleu-ocelot* said:
ikilledkenny said:
Install base. If a console is THUMPING the others, like the Wii, they want to put their games on it.

 

But why take the risks if no one is buying it?

 No one is buying what???

 Games are selling even if they are shovelware, the console is selling... which game with huge advertisement, huge budget is not selling???



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FJ-Warez said:
*bleu-ocelot* said:
ikilledkenny said:
Install base. If a console is THUMPING the others, like the Wii, they want to put their games on it.

 

But why take the risks if no one is buying it?

 No one is buying what???

 Games are selling even if they are shovelware, the console is selling... which game with huge advertisement, huge budget is not selling???


Hmmm.....NMH!!

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*bleu-ocelot* said:
FJ-Warez said:
*bleu-ocelot* said:
ikilledkenny said:
Install base. If a console is THUMPING the others, like the Wii, they want to put their games on it.

 

But why take the risks if no one is buying it?

 No one is buying what???

 Games are selling even if they are shovelware, the console is selling... which game with huge advertisement, huge budget is not selling???


 

Hmmm.....NMH!!

Is NMH a big budget game with huge advertisement???

 

BTW NMH sold better than the previous game made by the same dev...



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Soriku said:
*bleu-ocelot* said:
FJ-Warez said:
*bleu-ocelot* said:
ikilledkenny said:
Install base. If a console is THUMPING the others, like the Wii, they want to put their games on it.

 

But why take the risks if no one is buying it?

No one is buying what???

Games are selling even if they are shovelware, the console is selling... which game with huge advertisement, huge budget is not selling???


 

Hmmm.....NMH!!



You DO know NMH is a VERY niche game right? It also never got much advertising. It is also a Suda 51 game. Suda 51 games don't sell very well, yet has sold 300k. NMH is the Suda's best selling game ever and he even had a part to commemorate the game's success. If it was on the PS3 or 360 it would have sold A LOT less. Maybe you should check up on your facts.

 what determines whether or not a game is niche?



.......um..........The Wii's third party alone has sold more than every 1st, 2nd, & 3rd party game the 360 has, and the PS3. Even if their third party is "low quality", so was the PS2s. You make it seem like every 3rd party PS2 game was classic.

Why even bother comparing the Wii to the PS2, why not the PS3 & 360 as well? The PS2 has been out almost 8 years while the Wii has only been out 19 months. The userbase of the Wii is nowhere near that of the PS2 yet and neither is it's library.

How long are those Japanese ones going to support the 360 in Japan. The highest selling 360 game over in Japan is Blue Dragon, with 203k, the game below that is 105k.

We have no idea what Nintendo's upcoming 1st party games will be until E3, so how can they be exhausted? Nintendo would be extremely stupid to have blockbuster 1st party games released month after month and leave 7 months of the calendar without a game.

As for the Wii's demise, don't count on it. It won't fall off the face of the earth anytime soon, not with the excellent games available (though not as much as 360). The 1st party efforts will carry it to E3 and 3rd party games will be peppered in release in the meantime. Not even GTA4 could singe the hair on the Wii's toe knuckles. Wii has captured Japan no doubt and won't let it go.

Your profile picture didn't help your argument either.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

Attach rate is useful only when all the systems have about the same hardware install base.

The bigger the install base, the lower the attach rate. But thats because, for example, 25 millions Wii's with an attach rate of 4 for example, is a lot more than 14 millions PS3's with 6 attach rate.



You need a large install base with a good attach rate, a small install base with a good attach rate and a large install base with a poor attach rate both suck.