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PooperScooper on 25 May 2008
Darc Requiem said:
TheRealMafoo said:
starcraft said:
Neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 will last as long as the PS2 has. At the end of the day, what kept the PS2 going was it's immense userbase, library and exclusive third party support, none of which are assets held by Microsoft or Sony this generation.

The concept that somehow their "powerful" tech will keep them relevant is equally ridiculous, as both consoles have been long surpassed by gaming PC's, and from the Wii we can see that the broader gaming community doesn't give a rats about horsepower.

Most PS2 sales are at $179.00 and below. So until the PS3 gets to that price, we have no idea how the market will go.

Either that market will be already consumed with the Wii, and they won't want a PS3, or they will see the PS3 as an upgrade to the Wii, and the masses will come.

The PS3 also is the best BR player on the market, and that will effect sales.

The 360 needs to both cost less, and overcome it;s hardware issues. Once it has done that, the above applies to it as well.

As far as the PC surpassing the PS3, the PS2 was far less powerful then a high end PC the day it was released. The fact that the PS3 and the 360 ever were more powerful then a PC was an anomaly. 


 By the time th PS3 reaches that price the generation will be nearly over, not only that the Wii and 360 will hit that price point before the PS3.


and the Ps3 still beats the 360 week in and week out with it being cheaper.... your point?



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Strategyking92 on 25 May 2008
PooperScooper said:
Darc Requiem said:
TheRealMafoo said:
starcraft said:
Neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 will last as long as the PS2 has. At the end of the day, what kept the PS2 going was it's immense userbase, library and exclusive third party support, none of which are assets held by Microsoft or Sony this generation.

The concept that somehow their "powerful" tech will keep them relevant is equally ridiculous, as both consoles have been long surpassed by gaming PC's, and from the Wii we can see that the broader gaming community doesn't give a rats about horsepower.

Most PS2 sales are at $179.00 and below. So until the PS3 gets to that price, we have no idea how the market will go.

Either that market will be already consumed with the Wii, and they won't want a PS3, or they will see the PS3 as an upgrade to the Wii, and the masses will come.

The PS3 also is the best BR player on the market, and that will effect sales.

The 360 needs to both cost less, and overcome it;s hardware issues. Once it has done that, the above applies to it as well.

As far as the PC surpassing the PS3, the PS2 was far less powerful then a high end PC the day it was released. The fact that the PS3 and the 360 ever were more powerful then a PC was an anomaly. 


 By the time th PS3 reaches that price the generation will be nearly over, not only that the Wii and 360 will hit that price point before the PS3.


and the Ps3 still beats the 360 week in and week out with it being cheaper.... your point?


I see no proof, but i do see biased opinions.



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Zucas on 26 May 2008

And for those holding out or saying there is going to be a Wii 2, well most likely not. I don't think NIntendo is trying to create a brandname in Wii, but a brandname in Nintendo. That's what the DS did. Nintendo actually probably drifted away from calling the Nintendo DS the Gameboy whatever because brand was more on Gameboy rather than Nintendo. Which can be bad for software and bad for competition. You want your company's name to be the brand and they buy what you make. Sony may find this to be a problem in a few years if they don't win this generation cause PSP could drag the PS3 down with it due to similar brandname.

Thus with Nintendo they'll probably once again rename their console like they've done almost every generation. So we'll temporarily call it N6, the earlies codename possible.



Strategyking92 on 26 May 2008

so... that explains why it is called the "nintendo" wii..... hmmmm.... interesting.
why doesn't MS call the xbox the "microsoft" xbox 360??? seems stupid that they don't..... maybe it would take to long to say or something?



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Slimebeast on 26 May 2008

None of them will have 10 years lifetime.

X360 I think 7.5 or 8 years.
Wii 8 years
PS3 8 years

 Oh yeah, and total lifetime sales:

X360: 50 million

Wii: 140-180 million

Ps3: 70 million 



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rocketpig on 26 May 2008

No console this generation is going to run for 10 years. The only reason we've seen 10 year runs in the past is because the console was completely dominant. The Wii doesn't qualify because in five years, everyone is going to be looking for high definition, which the console doesn't provide. On top of that, Nintendo isn't known for supporting their old consoles at the expense of their new console. They're conservative and they're smart enough to not ride the Wii for too long. Expect a replacement in 2011 or 2012.




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rocketpig on 26 May 2008
Zucas said:
Wii can't last 10 yrs, nor would Nintendo allow it that long anyways. Wii is sorta an intermediate console for Nintendo. Meaning it's goal is to flip things around and put things back on its side. From a strategy point of view of course. Then as soon as it's certain this has happened and Wii has secured the front, Nintendo comes out, before the competition, and completely takes the next generation, which then they'll hold out for 10 yrs.

I agree with the bolded part. I couldn't disagree more with the other part.

Nintendo has the reins. There is no reason for them to create a "10 year" console when they created a hot $250 product that can be refreshed every 5 years... Unless you think the iPod model is wrong.

Nintendo has stolen much of Apple's product model over the past few years. That excites me and scares me at the same time. 




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Frodaddyg on 26 May 2008
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That excites me and scares me at the same time.

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SaviorX on 26 May 2008

Since the Wii is more successful out the gate than any other Nintendo system before it, I can see its successor coming out late 2011, or even 2012, depending on if the PS3 has a successor coming in as well by that time.



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vaio on 26 May 2008

If the Wii suddenly stops selling it won´t last 10 years but if it doesn´t stop selling (which it won´t) it will be selling that long as it probably will be the console winner.

If the PS 3 starts getting up their sales it will have a good chance at selling for 10 years and even if it doesn´t they still have a good chance of the 10 year plan because of bluray.

The xbox is the one that is most unlikely to have a long life like that but I truly hope that they will acchieve this.



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