@CAL4M1TY

You may have convinced non-core gamers, however I convinced a whole bunch of core gamers. So we even everything out, and Nintendo is still correct.

I probably play Wii 15-20 hours a week on average, so I must be HaRdCoRe!!!1one

Although my girlfriend has been playing Wii about 10 hours a week this year, and I'm wouldn't really describe her as a core gamer

So I can hang out at the cool table now?

Why´s Nintendo even getting into the 'word game' now?....It seems no one, including Nintendo,Sony and MS, really has reached a verdict on what it means to be a 'hardcore' gamer.

The Wii is my teenaged son's so I'd be the secondary gamer in our case. I barely played N64 or PS2 (mainly to play with him) but I've a library of Wii games of my own now.

Anecdotal evidence.

I love a good oxymoron.

@JGarret:

Because that's what the mainstream uses, unfortunately. I do hate the words "Hardcore" and "casual" too but for now, that's what most of the people is more familiar with.

5 hous or more of gaming a week is hardcore ?
Damn I thought it would have been more than that.

I haven't found an exact quote that says that Nintendo said 'hardcore'.

They describe what the internet calls hardcore, but I haven't found the actual article that shows they used those exact words, and the author isn't just paraphrasing.

I've felt for a while that there are actually 3 classifications for gamers:

Hardcore, Pop, and Casual.


Hardcore gamers just love games, classic franchises, new and old technology, and tend to hold onto their stuff. They like a wide range of franchises, typically, and still play older-style games (such as Shmups). I consider myself hardcore. I still have all my systems (although, my Playstation is not my original one, and my original GBA had to be tossed out because it broke) and pretty much all my games. If I weren't getting ready to move, all my consoles would also still be hooked up. Hardcore gamers are also the completist freaks that will work for achievements or 100% completion--that kind of thing. Hardcore is where you'll find some of the console fanboys.


Pop gamers follow whichever system is seen as "hardcore popular" and they tend not to stick with something for long. They buy only the "most popular, currently highest-rated" titles, and don't hesitate to trade in older titles or systems to get new ones. They do not see the charm in old-school throwbacks (something like, say, Viewtiful Joe or Geometry Wars), "art-house" kind of titles (Mad World, Killer7, Okami to an extent), nor are they interested in niche titles like Pikmin, Beautiful Katamari, Ikaruga, that kind of thing. They may be very superficial, and this is where you may find a lot of graphics whores and HD freaks where visuals are more important than gameplay.


Casual gamers are those who either don't have the time, patience, dexterity, or flat-out ability to play more complex "normal" video games. They like one-off titles, mini-game collections, traditional non-game kind of stuff (like Brain Age, Singstar, Wii Sports, DDR, etc). Casuals do not tend to shop at GameStop or specialty stores, and generally, don't play online nor do they download titles. They may hold onto games or systems for a while (after they stop playing them) simply because they don't know what to do with them or don't know about places like GameStop, Game Crazy, etc.





As per the article, I've believed for a long time that most Wii owners were hardcore gamers--so I'm not surprised. I just hope Nintendo properly supports us. Now, WHERE'S OUR FUCKING HARDDRIVE, NINTENDO?!