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twesterm on 19 May 2008
dallas said:
twesterm said:
dallas said:
twesterm said:

 

  1. BD burners aren't always going to be high.

If you ever want to talk to "get in business" let me know.


Not sure if you're trying to mock me there since I'm not sure why you would

The OP stated that one of the ways they dodged piracy is that many people don't have the burners. They don't have burners because they are expensive. When they aren't expensive they will become as common as every other burner. When they're that common, anyone can burn a disc and that would kind of get rid of the they dodged piracy becaise of x reason idea.


 

I was just seeing if you wanted to get into a very legitimate movie oriented business.


 Oh I've made my stance on piracy on this forum very clear quite a few times.   



 

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Loud_Hot_White_Box on 19 May 2008
sieanr said:
sc94597 said: anythng over 10gb is too much for the average download speed.

Bullshit. I'm currently download several BR rips, each around 20-35gb. It will take a couple of days, or even a week, but its sure as hell not beyond the reach of current download speeds.

 



HappySqurriel on 19 May 2008

There are three factors that are working against piracy on the PS3 at the moment ...

Blu-Ray discs and burners are amazingly expensive at the moment, and the cost between stealing a PS3 game and buying a game not worth the effort.

The PS3 is not popular enough (at the moment), and the platform is already fairly open, which means that pirates and hobbyists have little incentive to cract the platform to enable booting from the hard-drive (or an attached device).

25GB is an inconvenient size for most people to download a large quantity of games; certainly, with a good internet connection it isn't a problem, but the occasional fake file is annoying enough to frustrate even the most dedicated geek.



Imperial on 19 May 2008

I'm not sure when ( or if ever ) the ps3 will be pirated . But one things for certain I haven't seen piracy protection last so long in a long time.

All the atempts i've seen at hacking the PS3 for priacy purposes haven't even got close so far , once they do find a way i'm sure there will be a surge in PS3 sales.

But BR burner ? , BR Discs?, Fast internet ? it'll take a while before it's more worthwhile to pirate a game than just buy it/rent it.



HappySqurriel on 19 May 2008
Imperial said:
I'm not sure when ( or if ever ) the ps3 will be pirated . But one things for certain I haven't seen piracy protection last so long in a long time.

All the atempts i've seen at hacking the PS3 for priacy purposes haven't even got close so far , once they do find a way i'm sure there will be a surge in PS3 sales.

But BR burner ? , BR Discs?, Fast internet ? it'll take a while before it's more worthwhile to pirate a game than just buy it/rent it.

The Gamecube lasted well over 2 years before the initial mod-chips were produced, and it never really took off ...



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jlauro on 19 May 2008

but the gamecube did make it so they were able to make the first mod chips for the wii in about 2 months.



HappySqurriel on 19 May 2008
jlauro said:
but the gamecube did make it so they were able to make the first mod chips for the wii in about 2 months.

Not really ...

The Gamecube had built-in hardware region protection and people created a mod for it that allowed import games. For the first several years there were people who claimed to hack the Gamecube, and one group created a video of their mod working and later demonstrated with the similar videos that you could copy a Gamecube game onto a cookie.



Rock_on_2008 on 19 May 2008

Piracy can never be avoided there will be pirates out there working on cracking PS3. The cost of an empty Blu-Ray disc are so much more expensive than DVD's. One bad rip and the money would be wasted. Blu-Ray discs are equal to one third of a game disc. PS2 consoles were so high due to the ease of which games can be pirated.



sc94597 on 19 May 2008
Rock_on_2008 said:
Piracy can never be avoided there will be pirates out there working on cracking PS3. The cost of an empty Blu-Ray disc are so much more expensive than DVD's. One bad rip and the money would be wasted. Blu-Ray discs are equal to one third of a game disc. PS2 consoles were so high due to the ease of which games can be pirated.
It's not just that, the burners cost around 600 dollars. That is enough for 10 games. They are also very slow too.

 



Daddo Splat on 19 May 2008
sieanr said:

Loud_Hot_White_Box said:I'm pretty sure if movies or games get "cracked" the standard can be changed and firmware updated to lock it the PS3 down again.  Not sur, though.

I still say Sony should brick all modded PSPs just before a new model with more features comes out.  Force some repurchases.

BR has been cracked to hell and back, and its been like that for ages. They can change keys now, but it'd be useless.

If Sony were to intentionally try to brick modded PSPs, then they'd be in for tons of lawsuits and bad press, wether or not its well founded. But even then it wouldn't do anything since Pandoras battery can recover a bricked PSP. Oh, and thats if you could trick modded PSP owners to upgrade to a firmware that bricks handhelds in the first place.


All I want to say is both of your post are correct and Intelligent I like the trick the modded psp user to upgrade his firmware and get bricked. If you modded it you probably wouldnt want to update.

Thats were sony in the future could use an auto update when a game pops in you cant play it unless you update! that might keep people from modding maybe.

Also I have a customer with a 200 MB original xbox loaded with all the original nintendo games tv shows porn a ton on MP3s

and quite a few original xbox games its amazing what modding can do!