Kasz216 said: FinalEvangelion said: *~Onna76~* said: @Final... Former generation was entirely different. RPG's were on a productive scale, you wouldn't believe it. Therefore.. how can gamers change so fast? I haven't changed of being a RPG fan. I have a WII and a DS like I had a GBA and GC in the former generation. I have a PSP and PS3 like I had a .... well PS2 only in the former generation. Despite the fact I have a WII / DS you don't see me buying brain training games, cooking and how to run your houshold. Just about 2 years ago, RPG's were dominating the lists all the time and all of the sudden... poof... gone. Not a surprise if they keep on waiting with releasing or releasing on the wrong consoles which make the game bound to sell bad Plus, Paper Mario isn't really a RPG, more an action / adventure, like Folklore is on the PS3 and Dragon Quest Swords is just a short hack n slash game, nothing more. You can't compare these games with the almighty Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Tales of..., Shin Megami Tensei, or any other kind of die hard RPG. Yeah, Japan seems to have the tendency to change overnight and do so all at once. In America, people liked FPS games last two generations and still like FPS games today like there is no tomorrow, despite the Wii being here.   The anime industry is also not in such good shape as it used to be too, but that's a different story, although both go hand in hand with jRPGs. My guess is that the jRPG / anime scene is now reduced to the people that hang out in Akihabara all the time. Yet PS2 and DS RPGs are still selling well to my knowledge aren't they?

 Do you know what World Ends with You numbers are?  For the PS2, they still have most of the old jRPG base.  The first true jRPG test on PS3 will be WKC, when ever that's supposed to get out.  Valkyrie of the Battlefield did better than I had expected.  I honestly didn't think it would make 75k sales LTD in Japan with the way things were going.  

FinalEvangelion said: Kasz216 said: FinalEvangelion said: *~Onna76~* said: @Final... Former generation was entirely different. RPG's were on a productive scale, you wouldn't believe it. Therefore.. how can gamers change so fast? I haven't changed of being a RPG fan. I have a WII and a DS like I had a GBA and GC in the former generation. I have a PSP and PS3 like I had a .... well PS2 only in the former generation. Despite the fact I have a WII / DS you don't see me buying brain training games, cooking and how to run your houshold. Just about 2 years ago, RPG's were dominating the lists all the time and all of the sudden... poof... gone. Not a surprise if they keep on waiting with releasing or releasing on the wrong consoles which make the game bound to sell bad Plus, Paper Mario isn't really a RPG, more an action / adventure, like Folklore is on the PS3 and Dragon Quest Swords is just a short hack n slash game, nothing more. You can't compare these games with the almighty Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Tales of..., Shin Megami Tensei, or any other kind of die hard RPG. Yeah, Japan seems to have the tendency to change overnight and do so all at once. In America, people liked FPS games last two generations and still like FPS games today like there is no tomorrow, despite the Wii being here.   The anime industry is also not in such good shape as it used to be too, but that's a different story, although both go hand in hand with jRPGs. My guess is that the jRPG / anime scene is now reduced to the people that hang out in Akihabara all the time. Yet PS2 and DS RPGs are still selling well to my knowledge aren't they? Do you know what World Ends with You numbers are? For the PS2, they still have most of the old jRPG base. The first true jRPG test on PS3 will be WKC, when ever that's supposed to get out. Valkyrie of the Battlefield did better than I had expected. I honestly didn't think it would make 75k sales LTD in Japan with the way things were going.

Is that even out in Japan? All I see for it is US numbers. You've got to keep in mind that they're RPGs as well.

I mean how many RPGs on the PS2 sold more then 500,000 units? (Which is what the source predicts for that particular game.)

Not many.

When you take out the ones not DQ, FF or involving FF... the numbers are quite small.

That's why basically every RPG is low budget in the first place.

Also if RPG fans are outgrowing them... why are they still buying them?  Isn't it possible just that Japan doesn't want to buy 360's and PS3 is just to overpriced for your average RPG fan? 

HD gaming market is dead in Japan. Japan is a one console per generation, this time round the Wii. Both portables are doing well in Japan.

Kasz216 said: FinalEvangelion said: Kasz216 said: FinalEvangelion said: *~Onna76~* said: @Final... Former generation was entirely different. RPG's were on a productive scale, you wouldn't believe it. Therefore.. how can gamers change so fast? I haven't changed of being a RPG fan. I have a WII and a DS like I had a GBA and GC in the former generation. I have a PSP and PS3 like I had a .... well PS2 only in the former generation. Despite the fact I have a WII / DS you don't see me buying brain training games, cooking and how to run your houshold. Just about 2 years ago, RPG's were dominating the lists all the time and all of the sudden... poof... gone. Not a surprise if they keep on waiting with releasing or releasing on the wrong consoles which make the game bound to sell bad Plus, Paper Mario isn't really a RPG, more an action / adventure, like Folklore is on the PS3 and Dragon Quest Swords is just a short hack n slash game, nothing more. You can't compare these games with the almighty Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Tales of..., Shin Megami Tensei, or any other kind of die hard RPG. Yeah, Japan seems to have the tendency to change overnight and do so all at once. In America, people liked FPS games last two generations and still like FPS games today like there is no tomorrow, despite the Wii being here.   The anime industry is also not in such good shape as it used to be too, but that's a different story, although both go hand in hand with jRPGs. My guess is that the jRPG / anime scene is now reduced to the people that hang out in Akihabara all the time. Yet PS2 and DS RPGs are still selling well to my knowledge aren't they? Do you know what World Ends with You numbers are? For the PS2, they still have most of the old jRPG base. The first true jRPG test on PS3 will be WKC, when ever that's supposed to get out. Valkyrie of the Battlefield did better than I had expected. I honestly didn't think it would make 75k sales LTD in Japan with the way things were going. Is that even out in Japan? All I see for it is US numbers. You've got to keep in mind that they're RPGs as well. I mean how many RPGs on the PS2 sold more then 500,000 units? (Which is what the source predicts for that particular game.) Not many. When you take out the ones not DQ, FF or involving FF... the numbers are quite small. That's why basically every RPG is low budget in the first place. Also if RPG fans are outgrowing them... why are they still buying them? Isn't it possible just that Japan doesn't want to buy 360's and PS3 is just to overpriced for your average RPG fan?

If you're talking about the World Ends with You, then yes it came out last year here. It's listed on VGC as "Its a Wonderful World" (Subarashiki kono sekai)which is why the US and JP listings are different.

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7071

 There was actually a special edition DS bundle released when it first came out too.

http://dol.dengeki.com/data/news/2007/5/31/73016b0fc45277d0f0c36968bf3d2ca5_3.html

I've seen the DS in some used shops.

OT: The PS3 is on life support in Japan and things just keep getting worse and worse.  It'll most likely see a small bump for MGS4 and then drop like a rock again. 

Meh... not really. 

Try posting again, this time without the personal jabs, and I'll tell you why this week is boring.

No More Heroes was aimed at a western audience (hence its much improved sales outside of Japan - in fact, worldwide, it's Suda51's best selling game of all time, IIRC).  As for Zack and Wiki, well, I firmly disagree that it would have sold any better on the XBox 360, or even the PS3, all other things equal.  I believe there were other factors, such as a complete lack of hype and advertising, which were much more significant contributing factors to its poor performance than the fact that it was only available on the Wii.  What you're seeing on the chart there is more a consequence of the fact that developers have yet to even test the waters for the presence of demand for the established genres they know and love.  If the DS precedent is to be believed, 3rd parties can and will make inroads on that graph once they get with the program.

@DMeisterJ: I cant see why its boring, if you mean the same games all over then yea, but its not boring cause theres 2 platforms selling well PSP and Wii, along with many games. Maybe the definition of "boring" you have differs from mine.

I said boring because it's the same as last week.  Yes, sales for Wii and PSP are good, but that was the case last week, and the week befor that.  The order the consoles are in were the same.  PS3 is still selling crappy, as is the 360.  Wii/PSP are selling good, and DS is doing okay, but reaching saturation...  Nothing new really.  Software is boring too.  Nothing new.  MK Wii first, MHP2G second, same as the last few weeks...  That's why I said boring.  It had nothing to do with the PS3.

When the VGC/NPD corrections go up due to the 360/PS3 appearing significantly overtracked by VGC, expect Nintendo's market share to increase a bit further.