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Since it's first showing mid-last year, and it's status of multiplatform, this game has gone from some excitement, to a status of timed-exclusive, making this game "ok", to full PS3 exclusive, making this game "meh/bland/generic/etc/" all in the course of about 9 months. I said this for a reason:

The other day my friend, and 360 only owner, and I saw our first commercial for Haze. To which the first thing my friend said was "How is this game "revolutionary"? It's going to fail to bad. It just looks like Timeshift (he said that because of the helmet, and the fact that nectar speeds you up (consufing that with Timeshift slowing down time, yet you move at normal speed)" Considering he doesn't have a PS3, I assumed "Why do you even care about this game?" So I asked him a question with equal value on my side: "What makes Halo 3 "revolutionary"? And he only says "the multiplayer".

Considering that damn near every shooter this generation has multiplayer (COD3/4, Resistance, UT3, Rainbow Six, Frontlines, Gears, etc) it begs me to ask how Halo 3's multiplayer is revolutionary. But that's not the issue. the issue is that people WANT this game to fail, mostly from the Xbox side. I don't want this to turn into a 360 bashfest, as my situation may not have happened to anyone else, but the fact that the first thing he asked was "How is this game revolutionary?" without seeing anything else but the name on screen makes me believe that everyone has convinced themselves that this game will suck.

I mean, how many games this generation have been "revolutionary"? Not that many, yet there are still great games out that allow gamers to enjoy themselves. What happened to that? What happened to a solid game coming out that we, as gamers, can enjoy? Why does EVERY game have to break new boundaries? This is like something I agreed with in the thread about MGS4 getting a 10:

"a 10 should be awarded if you play a game, throughoughly enjoy it, and after playing it look back and go, wow, I can find nothing wrong with that experience, it was enjoyable through every aspect. I'm tired of innovation being the new guide for a games quality -_-; what happened to people just enjoying great games? Sequels get trashed this day in age because they don't "reinvigorate" the market, seriously who gives a shit? Some people tire of playing the same thing over and over, but some of us love sticking to something that works, I don't care how played out certain things can be, as long as they're a blast to play then whats the problem?" ~ ChronotriggerJM

....sorry for the rant, but what he said in accordance to this game got me thinking..... 



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This is a problem for a lot of PS3 exclusives. They get announced way too early...and by the time they come out, the buzz is already gone. Haze as delayed and now is overshadowed by GTA4 and MGS4. Simple as that...no one wants the game to fail.



Honestly, I'm not knocking this game because it isn't revolutionary, I'm knocking it because it has "been there, done that a million times already" written all over it.

I might be a decent game but I get the distinct feeling that I've played it so many times in the past 10 years that I have a hard time saying anything more than "meh" about it. Hopefully the full game will surprise me but I'm not holding my breath in anticipation.




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It's not even the fact that it's being released during this time. It's just that when gameplay screens first came out, everyone was saying things like "DO WANT" or "I can't wait for this game to come out"

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24378.html (look at comments)

Now, everyone's saying that "it'll be meh" "it's too generic" etc. Just because bigger games are coming out right now doesn't mean the quality of this game goes down. And at the same time, it may have lost it's buzz, but again that doesn't cause its' quality to go down. Yet everyone assumes that over the time, it's only gotten suckier, yet the formula from when they first saw the game is the same, just with more polish



Its getting some good reviews.Hopefully it will have some decent sales,Free Radical deserves this.



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rocketpig said:
Honestly, I'm not knocking this game because it isn't revolutionary, I'm knocking it because it has "been there, done that a million times already" written all over it.

I might be a decent game but I get the distinct feeling that I've played it so many times in the past 10 years that I have a hard time saying anything more than "meh" about it.
Hopefully the full game will surprise me but I'm not holding my breath in anticipation.

Can't you say the same thing about Resistance, COD4, Halo 3, etc? The only shooters that have changed the playing field this gen are Bioshock, for it's storytelling, and Gears, for the cover system, but everything else could be filed under "been there, done that"



I am still seriously considering this game as a purchase, however, I have the same reservations as rocketpig on this. I don't want to waste 60 bucks on a game that is mediocre at best.



I honestly can't wait for Haze. CoD 4 get's boring after playing it for so long. I think Haze will be good, and it will be the game to keep me busy until MGS4.



                                   

BMaker11 said:

Since it's first showing mid-last year, and it's status of multiplatform, this game has gone from some excitement, to a status of timed-exclusive, making this game "ok", to full PS3 exclusive, making this game "meh/bland/generic/etc/" all in the course of about 9 months. I said this for a reason:

The other day my friend, and 360 only owner, and I saw our first commercial for Haze. To which the first thing my friend said was "How is this game "revolutionary"? It's going to fail to bad. It just looks like Timeshift (he said that because of the helmet, and the fact that nectar speeds you up (consufing that with Timeshift slowing down time, yet you move at normal speed)" Considering he doesn't have a PS3, I assumed "Why do you even care about this game?" So I asked him a question with equal value on my side: "What makes Halo 3 "revolutionary"? And he only says "the multiplayer".

Considering that damn near every shooter this generation has multiplayer (COD3/4, Resistance, UT3, Rainbow Six, Frontlines, Gears, etc) it begs me to ask how Halo 3's multiplayer is revolutionary. But that's not the issue. the issue is that people WANT this game to fail, mostly from the Xbox side. I don't want this to turn into a 360 bashfest, as my situation may not have happened to anyone else, but the fact that the first thing he asked was "How is this game revolutionary?" without seeing anything else but the name on screen makes me believe that everyone has convinced themselves that this game will suck.

I mean, how many games this generation have been "revolutionary"? Not that many, yet there are still great games out that allow gamers to enjoy themselves. What happened to that? What happened to a solid game coming out that we, as gamers, can enjoy? Why does EVERY game have to break new boundaries? This is like something I agreed with in the thread about MGS4 getting a 10:

"a 10 should be awarded if you play a game, throughoughly enjoy it, and after playing it look back and go, wow, I can find nothing wrong with that experience, it was enjoyable through every aspect. I'm tired of innovation being the new guide for a games quality -_-; what happened to people just enjoying great games? Sequels get trashed this day in age because they don't "reinvigorate" the market, seriously who gives a shit? Some people tire of playing the same thing over and over, but some of us love sticking to something that works, I don't care how played out certain things can be, as long as they're a blast to play then whats the problem?" ~ ChronotriggerJM

....sorry for the rant, but what he said in accordance to this game got me thinking.....


 what is the differency to you? seriously, you experience it the same way (everything moves slow except you), everyone else experiences it the same way (you move fast). please, I am really interested. Is it a different gameplay mechanic then?



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BMaker11 said:

The other day my friend, and 360 only owner, and I saw our first commercial for Haze. To which the first thing my friend said was "How is this game "revolutionary"? It's going to fail to bad. It just looks like Timeshift (he said that because of the helmet, and the fact that nectar speeds you up (consufing that with Timeshift slowing down time, yet you move at normal speed)" Considering he doesn't have a PS3, I assumed "Why do you even care about this game?" So I asked him a question with equal value on my side: "What makes Halo 3 "revolutionary"? And he only says "the multiplayer".


 First off, being delayed indefinitely a month before launch when print ads are already being ran is a very telling tale.  Hopefully they got all their problems sorted out, but that fact alone tells anyone that the game had something seriously wrong with it.

As for Halo, it's true that many games have multiplayer and many of those have *fantastic* multiplayer.  Still though, Halo 2 and Halo 3 stand out as two of the best multiplayer games.  Halo 3 just has an insane amount of depth that most other games don't have.  Sure, it doesn't have 40 player deathmatch, but it does have just about everything else and all of it very well polished.

..the issue is that people WANT this game to fail, mostly from the Xbox side. I don't want this to turn into a 360 bashfest, as my situation may not have happened to anyone else, but the fact that the first thing he asked was "How is this game revolutionary?" without seeing anything else but the name on screen makes me believe that everyone has convinced themselves that this game will suck.

I think you're reading too much into this.  He truly might have said it sucked mainly because it's on the PS3 and 360 (because those people do exist) but there are other reasons to assume the game is going to suck.  The first and foremost reason are the delays.  A delay can make a game good but when it's an unknown game it can also put a lot of worry into someone.

The other thing that makes people worry is that the gameplay videos just don't look that great.  I haven't actually watched any of the recent ones because I stopped paying attention to the game when Gamestop said they wouldn't be actually giving the game away for free but I have been at least paying attention to the comments.  I could be wrong, but the vast majority of the comments are meh

I mean, how many games this generation have been "revolutionary"? Not that many, yet there are still great games out that allow gamers to enjoy themselves. What happened to that? What happened to a solid game coming out that we, as gamers, can enjoy? Why does EVERY game have to break new boundaries? This is like something I agreed with in the thread about MGS4 getting a 10:

Not every game has to be revolutionary (and there have been a lot this generation alone) but we do also want something different.  Why do I want to pay $60 for a game I've already played over and over again?  There's nothing that's wrong with an overly generic game that's cheap, but if you expect me to pay full price for a game give me a good reason to want to pay full price. 

And yes, a problem with a lot of games is that they get announced way to early and then get delayed way too much.