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Ail on 15 May 2008
Kasz216 said:
Ail said:
Kasz216 said:
Imperial said:
De85 said:
vaio said:
De85 said:
Desroko said:
De85 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
If some of the above people are correct I must say I am ASHAMED of SONY

what a CHEAP move..."oh we'll predict it low n then raise it later to make Ps3 look like its pwning"

I agree it's cheap, but sadly that's the way this world works. Just remember though that it's not just Sony doing stuff like that. MS took the huge RRoD hit a year or so ago to be able to report profits now, and Nintendo isn't even trying to raise production enough to satisfy demand because the longer their console is sold out the better they look.

Reasons like these are why I never trust official statements. I want to see audited financial statements beforeI believe anything from a large company.


Actualy, Nintendo is planing to raise production again. 2.4m/month is the number being tossed around.


After they raised it from 2.3/month a while ago. If we're lucky they may soon hit 2.5 per month. They're only making these token increases to be able to say they're trying to meet demand. The reality is that they want the Wii to stay sold out because it makes their product look even more popular than it already is.


Oh my little troll, my beautiful liitle troll!!

You have been a good boy come here and get your fish my good troll.


Care to explain why Nintendo would NOT want the Wii to be sold out. I raised a legitimate issue, and you in turn did nothing but attack me personally. Who's the real troll here?


I completley understand what your saying , he's a fanboy so he'll easy mistake anything that sounds anti-nintendo as an assault on the company.

Wii's being sold out would be good for the reason that it has a psycological effect on the consumer , they want what they can't have which will increase the desirability and value for money of the Wii, if Nintendo can make the demand slighty greater than that of their supply ( assuming the demand remains high) then it will result in long term profitability for Nintendo.


Actually, no. That's only good for short bursts like the release. If you are sold out for giant stretches of time people get fed up, you lose sales and you leave money on the table.

It's a horrible idea to be sold out for any long period of time if you can push more stock into the market.

 

I'm pretty sure most of the Oil companies or country that produce oil disagree with you :P

 


Oil is a needed commodity. It's a LOT different than a luxuary item.  Seriously, take a class or read a book on the subject.


yeah I'm pretty sure all those people driving around in Hummer or big SUV NEED them :P

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

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Ail on 15 May 2008
smbu2000 said:
Ail said:
Kasz216 said:
Imperial said:
De85 said:
vaio said:
De85 said:
Desroko said:
De85 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
If some of the above people are correct I must say I am ASHAMED of SONY

what a CHEAP move..."oh we'll predict it low n then raise it later to make Ps3 look like its pwning"

I agree it's cheap, but sadly that's the way this world works. Just remember though that it's not just Sony doing stuff like that. MS took the huge RRoD hit a year or so ago to be able to report profits now, and Nintendo isn't even trying to raise production enough to satisfy demand because the longer their console is sold out the better they look.

Reasons like these are why I never trust official statements. I want to see audited financial statements beforeI believe anything from a large company.


Actualy, Nintendo is planing to raise production again. 2.4m/month is the number being tossed around.


After they raised it from 2.3/month a while ago. If we're lucky they may soon hit 2.5 per month. They're only making these token increases to be able to say they're trying to meet demand. The reality is that they want the Wii to stay sold out because it makes their product look even more popular than it already is.


Oh my little troll, my beautiful liitle troll!!

You have been a good boy come here and get your fish my good troll.


Care to explain why Nintendo would NOT want the Wii to be sold out. I raised a legitimate issue, and you in turn did nothing but attack me personally. Who's the real troll here?


I completley understand what your saying , he's a fanboy so he'll easy mistake anything that sounds anti-nintendo as an assault on the company.

Wii's being sold out would be good for the reason that it has a psycological effect on the consumer , they want what they can't have which will increase the desirability and value for money of the Wii, if Nintendo can make the demand slighty greater than that of their supply ( assuming the demand remains high) then it will result in long term profitability for Nintendo.


Actually, no. That's only good for short bursts like the release. If you are sold out for giant stretches of time people get fed up, you lose sales and you leave money on the table.

It's a horrible idea to be sold out for any long period of time if you can push more stock into the market.

 

I'm pretty sure most of the Oil companies or country that produce oil disagree with you :P

 


 You do know that oil companies/oil producing countries RAISE prices when demand is up/supply down, right? I'm pretty sure that Nintendo is still charging the same price for the Wii whether or not demand is up/supply down. (I'm not counting ebay, because that is not Nintendo selling them for inflated prices.)

 

I know I was just giving a counter argument to the person trying to explain me the market mechanism ( the part I bolded).

Nonetheless if Nintendo as a company could have a choice between :

1) Selling 50 millions Wii this year and then selling 2 million Wii each of the 3 years after

2) Selling 25 millions Wii this year, 27 the year after , 28 the year after and 29 the 4th year.

They would pick 2 hands down even if it would sell 1 million units less in the end.

2)  Provides steady growth and doesn't require them to temporary increase production ( which is something costly to do).

 

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Scruff7 on 15 May 2008

this thread is hilarious!

da freakz are coming! run for the hills, you get a better view...



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lazyrider on 15 May 2008

Ali, your numbered example is awesome! It makes no snese but I love it! How old are you?

OT: Sony is playing it safe and rightfully so and I see them sell 12.5-13 million.



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FinalEvangelion on 15 May 2008

PS3 is t3H d00Mz0rz. I better pick it up and throw it out the window now. /sarcasm



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Dno on 15 May 2008
RAZurrection said:

OR does it mean NO Price Drop?

Whatever it means its VERY stupid of SONY to predict only a 760K increase in sales when this years PS3 sales have been outselling last years ALMOST by 100K on a weekly basis..

What are your thoughts??


Either no price drop or a very small one. Now you know why MS hasn't played it's big price drop yet, they've been waiting for this to happen...to strike at the time when Sony can't react.

Sony has to stop these losses somehow and you can't do that with price drops, MS did the same last year at the cost of a bit of market share and the profit is now rolling in just in time to price drop this holiday and take PS3 to the cleaners.


um.. no.... just no