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rocketpig on 13 May 2008
BenKenobi88 said:
jasonnc80 said:
BenKenobi88 said:
selnor said:
 
I am loving this. LOL. When Mario Galaxy was first shown everyone said it was crap, that going in space and running upside down round planets was awful. Look at what the gaming world says about it now. The Banjo team know what they are doing in platform games. They are the best team outside of the Shigsy at platformers. I have no doubt it'll all gel well.

The best team outside Shigsy...in 1998. It's been a long time since they've made a good platformer.


You could kind of say the same thing about Mario. Before Galaxy it had been a long time (10 years) since a good mario platformer....Mario64


No, Mario Sunshine was respectable...it's underrated.


On the other hand, how many people were pissed that a major gameplay mechanic had been changed in Sunshine?

...

And how many people like the game after having played it?

All I'm saying is that Rare deserves a chance to make this right. If the game sucks when it ships, I'll be the first to start slamming it.

Even so, I'm disapointed that it's not more traditional. I can understand disappointment over the announcement but the pure hatred in this thread is unwarranted. 




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RPGJock on 13 May 2008

In honest, it doesn't look horrible.

In the end it will sell, but not like SMG, but like R&CF:TOD. Honestly, I think that what Microsoft is at least hoping for.



I'm just saying...

ToastyJaguar on 13 May 2008

I just realized Gamespot gave the first 2 games 9.5 and 9.6 respectively.

I wonder if they can pull it off with this one.




BenKenobi88 on 13 May 2008
rocketpig said:
BenKenobi88 said:
jasonnc80 said:
BenKenobi88 said:
selnor said:
 
I am loving this. LOL. When Mario Galaxy was first shown everyone said it was crap, that going in space and running upside down round planets was awful. Look at what the gaming world says about it now. The Banjo team know what they are doing in platform games. They are the best team outside of the Shigsy at platformers. I have no doubt it'll all gel well.

The best team outside Shigsy...in 1998. It's been a long time since they've made a good platformer.


You could kind of say the same thing about Mario. Before Galaxy it had been a long time (10 years) since a good mario platformer....Mario64


No, Mario Sunshine was respectable...it's underrated.


On the other hand, how many people were pissed that a major gameplay mechanic had been changed in Sunshine?

...

And how many people like the game after having played it?

All I'm saying is that Rare deserves a chance to make this right. If the game sucks when it ships, I'll be the first to start slamming it.

Even so, I'm disapointed that it's not more traditional. I can understand disappointment over the announcement but the pure hatred in this thread is unwarranted.


 I'm not sure how many...but they were probably more pissed that the game took place on a general island instead of warping to wild and unique locations like M64 did. 

Still, the fundamental gameplay was pretty much the same.  I suppose it is here in the new B&K, but the vehicle theme is definitely more of a change than a waterpack.

I never said I wouldn't give it a chance...but it's definitely not the game I wanted.  Even if I find this game highly enjoyable, I'll finish it and still want another Banjo sequel that does the original justice.  Hopefully Rare proves me wrong. 



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naznatips on 13 May 2008
rocketpig said:
BenKenobi88 said:
jasonnc80 said:
BenKenobi88 said:
selnor said:
 
I am loving this. LOL. When Mario Galaxy was first shown everyone said it was crap, that going in space and running upside down round planets was awful. Look at what the gaming world says about it now. The Banjo team know what they are doing in platform games. They are the best team outside of the Shigsy at platformers. I have no doubt it'll all gel well.

The best team outside Shigsy...in 1998. It's been a long time since they've made a good platformer.


You could kind of say the same thing about Mario. Before Galaxy it had been a long time (10 years) since a good mario platformer....Mario64


No, Mario Sunshine was respectable...it's underrated.


On the other hand, how many people were pissed that a major gameplay mechanic had been changed in Sunshine?

...

And how many people like the game after having played it?

All I'm saying is that Rare deserves a chance to make this right. If the game sucks when it ships, I'll be the first to start slamming it.

Even so, I'm disapointed that it's not more traditional. I can understand disappointment over the announcement but the pure hatred in this thread is unwarranted.


I've expressed no hatred.  I even said the game may be good, but what it isn't, is Banjo. 



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rocketpig on 13 May 2008

Well, do you consider Sunshine to be Mario? I know a fair amount of people don't... Not that I think that's bad, I just happened to enjoy the game.

You weren't expressing hatred for this change but I've seen a fair amount of people in this forum who have.

Me, I'll just wait. After what Bethesda did to Fallout, I think I'm becoming numb to this sort of thing. At least there's a hope for this game to retain some of the heart of the old Banjo games.




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SaviorX on 13 May 2008

Wow.......that trailer was type wack. The only "platforming" I saw was Banjo tight rope walking, doing one jump, and running. I don't think this is "you mad cuz he using cars" argument. I hope the driving doesn't outnumber the platforming that much.

The blowing up of Mario's head was just retarded. It had nothing to do with the game at all and is like sticking your tongue out at a sibling. Banjo got it's start on a friggin Nintendo system, why would you do that? I don't see Cloud kicking Link in the face in FF7.

I played the first 2 Banjo Kazooie games, and they were solid games. This game doesn't build excitement for me whatsoever. The building of your own car is pretty cool though.



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Kyros on 13 May 2008

After what Bethesda did to Fallout,


Did I miss something? HAve we new information about Fallout3 a gameplay trailer or something? I still had harbored hope that they would at least follow the story and detailled world tradition.



Strategyking92 on 13 May 2008
Ari_Gold said:
The_vagabond7 said:
....That is....terrible. So much potential wasted...they turned one of the best platformers of the N64 generation into a Twisted metal/GTA/mariokart game. I was so frikkin pumped for this, and now I have lost about 90% of my interest in it. What the hell was that?

The end is just sad too. It reeks of the old Crash Bandicoot commercials. Many have come and tried to dethrone Mario, and all have failed and turned into 3rd rate stars (crash, spyro, Sonic). Looking at this video, I don't think Mario has much competition.

I guess you've already played the game..... or basically just have bad eyesight... the game is a platformer with lego vechicles, and the art and physics look so fuckin unbelieavable. Vechicles are used to reach hard to get jigsaws, or you could just play like the old banjo games if you want. 

This thread is about banjo, so thanks for derailing the thread with stupid fanboyish comments.  


I know, most of the people bashing it for no reason don't even have a 360!!! they are jealous I say!!!!!! jealous!!! At least this series isn't getting whored out!



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naznatips on 13 May 2008
rocketpig said:
Well, do you consider Sunshine to be Mario? I know a fair amount of people don't... Not that I think that's bad, I just happened to enjoy the game.

You weren't expressing hatred for this change but I've seen a fair amount of people in this forum who have.

Me, I'll just wait. After what Bethesda did to Fallout, I think I'm becoming numb to this sort of thing. At least there's a hope for this game to retain some of the heart of the old Banjo games.

Sunshine was still a platformer.  A platformer with an odd mechanic sure, but it was about running and jumping.  This is a vehicle game with some platforming.  It's not that I have any problem with the style of game, but why use Banjo?  Make a whole new game if you have no intention of sticking to the Banjo style at all.