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This is pretty common on all sides, but this was a pretty bad case of taking a quote out of context. I remember a thread about it on this site which tried to infer that it reflected badly on the PS3.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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makingmusic476 said:
...and said that the recent build of KZ2 looks "more ps2 like than ps3" in some parts.

IIRC they compared it to the psp when it was first posted.  Honestly I liked Kotaku, but after they have not once, but twice posted MGS4 spoilers (granted the first one wasn't anything major) in headlines, I won't be going back.



Yakuzaice said:
makingmusic476 said:
...and said that the recent build of KZ2 looks "more ps2 like than ps3" in some parts.

IIRC they compared it to the psp when it was first posted. Honestly I liked Kotaku, but after they have not once, but twice posted MGS4 spoilers (granted the first one wasn't anything major) in headlines, I won't be going back.


 Yeah, well that quote came from Luke Plunkett. He's just a fucking Sony-hating asshat. Shit like that is typical of him. But I usually think of him as the exception, not the rule, when it comes to Kotaku. Honestly, I still think this post coming from Ashcraft is all kinds of weird. Or, maybe they've just had me fooled all this while.



Kotaku is fine. They shit on all of the systems. You just don't need to take it personally when they shit on the PS3. I notice how they shit on the Wii all the time, and they were particularly critical of MS's hard drive pricing in the last couple of days. I would say that they hate on MS the least, but they are pretty fair in their hating ways.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

lol

so ign/kotaku/gametrailers

all fuckers?

what sites are good too get sum news from? :(

*****anyways

i hoep thay heavly addvertise this game!

i cant wait till all the people buy the 80gig ps3 again!

expect ps3 sales too go up too 500k the week this game is out :P

and still around 300k from then out



mgs4 will sell 2.4m week 1

japan:500k

others: 1m

NA:900k

AAA (90%+) games (metacritic):

nintendo:65

Xbox: 42

playstation: 98

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Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
starcraft said:
DAMAGE CONTROL!!!!! MAN THE FIRE-EXTINGUISHERS!!!!

Kojima did, indisputably, say that PS3 could deliver a game experience that 360 couldn't.

 

@Everyone: no NO that Grasz guy says PS3 fans claim "all" sites are biased, and that PROVEs that no sites are biased! Oh Noes! Kotaku isn't biased, it's logic!!

And fuck Kotaku anyway.

EDIT to say: at least their title for the article is decent, before the sarcasm and *Kotaku* damage control begins.

No need for that language. 



naznatips said:
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
starcraft said:
DAMAGE CONTROL!!!!! MAN THE FIRE-EXTINGUISHERS!!!!

Kojima did, indisputably, say that PS3 could deliver a game experience that 360 couldn't.

 

@Everyone: no NO that Grasz guy says PS3 fans claim "all" sites are biased, and that PROVEs that no sites are biased! Oh Noes! Kotaku isn't biased, it's logic!!

And fuck Kotaku anyway.

EDIT to say: at least their title for the article is decent, before the sarcasm and *Kotaku* damage control begins.

No need for that language.


 Wait, are we policing language here at VGChartz now?



Ha, he's moving from one misunderstanding by setting himself up for another. Watch as people completely take this statement the wrong way:

I am Japanese, so I try to be modest. I'm especially modest person. I dont wish to brag about it to say "I am the amazing Metal Gear guy" or to say "This is the best one", just like how Americans brag stuff like this... That's why i interview in Japanese, and Mr. Sai (translator) translates my side of the inteviews very well in English. Westerners do not have a tradition of modesty. And so, the statements are translated correctly, but the original meaning is totally different.

Just in case, I want to head this one off here. What he's saying isn't that Japanese are modest and Americans are braggarts: he means that Japanese culture expects a much higher level of modesty from its leaders and creators than Western culture. So, when a Japanese person reads the interview in question, they go in with an expectation that Kojima is going to be excessively modest, and frame their reading with that assumption. A westerner, on the other hand, has no such expectation and will read the statement literally. It's really not a "mistranslation," but a cultural misunderstanding.

But frankly, I thought it was pretty clear what he meant and how he meant it in the original interview. He wasn't saying the PS3 was a disappointment, he was saying that the reality of current hardware can never keep up with his ambition. The Edge editor even pointed that out. Any controversy that erupted from this was just the result of fools taking things out of context and willfully misreading them.



But I usually think of him as the exception, not the rule, when it comes to Kotaku. Honestly, I still think this post coming from Ashcraft is all kinds of weird.

No, you're right. Ashcraft's commentary in that post really caught me off guard too. It was baseless, unnecessary, and pretty unprofessional. Kotaku's original post on the interview had an extremely sensationalist title, "Kojima Disappointed with Metal Gear Solid 4", but I didn't think much of it at the time. Maybe it's part of a larger pattern, I don't know.



justforeggs said:

[excised]

what sites are good too get sum news from? :(

[excised]


Most gaming sites nowadays, all you can count on is, very generally that the screenshots/vids/release dates/quoted info from the devs might be correct as posted (not in the case of gametrailers, though). 

The actual WORDS written by the website staff you pretty much just have to ignore.  Rotten, bankrupt, sensationalist, bought out, fanboys, all too often.