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I disagree. I like the current game controllers alot. Maybe for someone who's just being introduced to a game for a first time it might be confusing, but thats the same with everything else. You dont pick up an instrument and then just know how to play. (yes I realise an instrument is a lot different to a controller, but I'm hoping you get the idea) But for someone like me who's been playing games for some years now, it's quite easy to pick up any controller and know how to work it. I dont think there are too many buttons or thumb sticks, games are getting more complicated and need them.



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it's not that bad. i must admit that some games do make the controls feel a bit cumbersome. it almost feels like you're doing backflips with your hands. (i.e. MGO).



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Yakuzaice said:
stephen700 said:
one good example of simplicity is the mac mouse it had just one button ! and while it was simple it could do everything.

No.....how anyone can like 1 button mac mice is mind boggling.


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Any game using so many controls is far to complex for a normal person to play


Define normal person. Millions and millions of people can use it just fine. There are simply games that require more than 4 directions button + 2 actions. It is true that you have to get used to it but in the end you have to decide what you want:

Dumbed down gameplay you can control with 6 buttons or PC game functionality with more options that require more control input and some learning time.



Eh, I'd prefer a 360 controller, PS3 controller, or a mouse and keyboard to a Wii-mote. I feel that what could be done with a simple button now has to be done with multiple waves of your arm to try and get the Wii-mote/sensor bar to register that action.

The PS3 and 360 controller may have lots of buttons, but the Wii-mote you're still going to have to remember all the button mappings as well as motion control mappings that may or may not register immediately when you perform the action.

It all depends on the person though, I may not care for the Wii-mote, but my parents loved it for something like Wii-Sports (really the only Wii game they've played).



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Smackdown games are the culprit when complex buttons go. I should only have to combine 2 buttons ONCE in a game (for a special maneuver). Not for 10 actions. It's really annoying sometimes.



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whattttt???? the xbox's and playstations almost have the same controlls except for the analog sticks are in diff places they have the same amount of buttons



Haha!

I used to laugh when my mother or father bought a new VCR or T.V. and didn't understand the workings of the remote.

Of course they didnt even connect the hardware nor wanted to take the time to understand it.

Someone said television remotes are complex, so are keyboards and humans.

I think that was a great combination of materials that can be discussed in short.

I already hit on televisions and remotes but in summation:

People only learn what they like learning or what they have no option but to learn, using the mass
understanding of 31 buttons remote controls that give you problems even remembering where the
button was to change the input. People generally only learn what they need to learn rather than the whole
material, unless their having fun learning it.

So in a sense a person forcing themselves to learn the fucntions of a television remote controller will learn
in tiers.
1. Manipulate the complex features of the television (Digital Audio, adjusting (D*)captions, setting optics)
2. Managing accoustics and blending out of template
3. Manipulating picture in picture
4. Adjust color settings, tint and so on also channel setting and input changing.
5. Changing the channel and volume of course power button and favorite channel button.
(D* is in place of Digital)

Some people can go their entire life with a television and never understand what most of the buttons do or how
they relate to the OSM of that television.

Key boards are a funny one, most people in the early 90's and 80's didnt even bother with them, the reason
why most people can at least tolerate a computer these days isn't because of microsoft word, it's because it
gave them the ability to do something they would normally do with more effort with less effort. I hope you remember
the online shopping burst in 1998 to 2004, you couldn't go 3 minutes of television commercials without something
relating something you could normally do made convenient using a computer. The internet increased the want to use the device.

So people did what the had to do to learn what they needed to learn about the keyboard, The mouce is the total opposite
or a keyboard, with traditionally only 2 buttons and rolling it around it more used then the keyboard to this day.
I believe everyone would agree that using your Favorites list is much easier than typing a url every time.
(I'm not listing the tiers of a keyboard as that's too much XD and changes OS to OS in it's core application.)

Finally people, this is going to be short - people don't understand people and we end up in Iraq and demonizing
others we don't understand. Give use something that simple and easy to navigate and boom you have yourself an
understanding.



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I do not want a gimped version of a 360/ps3 controller.

2 thumbs on the sticks is ideal for most games:

you use one to move, and the other for the camera, and the triggers to fire/grenade. The only time you will move your thumb it to reload/jump.

Take some buttons away and it won't work.

It's not difficult, when a new game comes out, people aren't like" oh man, this game rocks but i can't understand how to use the controller." All you got to do is spend about 10 minutes max to learn how to use them!

The Wii can be pretty mind perplexing to when you have to remember the different motions to make. But people learn!




If the Wiimote was perfectly responsive to your movements, MAYBE I would use it. As it is, it has the Sixaxis's motion sensor and the infrared pointing capability. ALL motion sensors suck for anything approaching fine control. Sure they work great for bowling and swinging a bat, but for aiming in a FPS? forget it.

mouse>>joysticks>>>>>>>>>>>>>motion sensor



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