Don't get me wrong.  I am sure that tonnes of those that bought PS3's this week are PS2 upgraders, but it is just as likely that 100k or more Xbox 360 owners were PS2 upgraders.

Here is the reasoning behind the 'Sony lost this week' argument for those that only came to bash me and couldn't be bothered actually reading the thread.

Before GTAIV:

Lets say the PS2 had 10 pieces of userbase, and the Xbox 360 and PS3 each had five.  

So Microsoft has five customers, and Sony has 15.

After GTAIV:

Lets say (even though the ratio here is overly generous to Sony) that the PS2 loses one piece of userbase to the Xbox 360 and two pieces to the PS3. 

Microsoft now has 6 pieces of userbase, and Sony now has 14 pieces of userbase.

So in the whole equation, Sony LOST customers (and future revenue) and Microsoft GAINED customers (and future revenue).

Edit: In reality of course, Nintendo would have taken even MORE PS2 userbase than both the PS3 and Xbox 360 meaning Sony lost by far more than this simple example demonstrates. 

I just threw up...

Too much spin.

If the game sold 17million copies on the PS2 and yet it sells 3.3million Xbox360 and 2.6million PS3 (Not exact) then it can be expected that a lot of the people who bought it on the Xbox360 had a PS2 last generation. Most people only have one console remember?

This thread can end world hunger! But who cares about that.


Other than that, there are a lot of facts you're not facing here. 360 is in deep sh*t right now. Exclusives is all that'll save this not an exclusive DLC of a multi plat game.

I'm going to rate this thread:

2/10.

For a 'starcraft' thread, that's rather low.

Normally his thread would get a 5/10.

But there's just not enough logic in here. All 360 buyers are PS2 upgraders... maybe, and maybe not. There's no evidence to prove either way.

Off-topic:

I love how the general consensus has changed over the course of a few months. Before, it was accepted as truth that GTA IV would sell more XBOX 360s and outsell PS3 software wise, and as the launch neared and news came out that things weren't looking so rosy for 360 hardware, and that PS3 software would probably be higher than 360 in others, it switched to 'stealing PS2 userbase'. But I digress, what would I do if the console of my choice didn't do as well as expected?

DMeisterJ said: I'm going to rate this thread: 2/10. For a 'starcraft' thread, that's rather low. Normally his thread would get a 5/10. But there's just not enough logic in here. All 360 buyers are PS2 upgraders... maybe, and maybe not. There's no evidence to prove either way. Off-topic: I love how the general consensus has changed over the course of a few months. Before, it was accepted as truth that GTA IV would sell more XBOX 360s and outsell PS3 software wise, and as the launch neared and news came out that things weren't looking so rosy for 360 hardware, and that PS3 software would probably be higher than 360 in others, it switched to 'stealing PS2 userbase'. But I digress, what would I do if the console of my choice didn't do as well as expected?

If you had read my OP or subsequent posts, you would know that the bolded does not in anyway represent my opinionP

As for the last bit?  You realize that the accepted wisdom (even from Xbox 360 fanboys) at large was that the PS3 would get a better hardware boost from GTAIV from the beginning right?

Actually, whats surprising is first of all that both HD consoles got a smaller than expected boost, that the Xbox 360 didn't do as well SW wise compared to the PS3 as was expected, but that it did BETTER than in expected HW wise (once again, relatively, as both consoles achieved a smaller boost than I had hoped).

Now that I think about it, the Wii needs to fall back a bit.  I really don't want one overly dominant console this generation. 

*cough* 3 year warranty *cough*

*cough* lack of logic *cough*