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Forums - Sales - Grand Theft Auto IV... 100 million spent? (Cost of GTAIV)

OMG Rockstar cant sold 1 million to break even I think they need 8 milliion copies to break it. 100 Million thats alot do you know how many 100 million is? No wonder Take2's boss is furious about analysts on sales of GTA IV.

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=25322



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Yojimbo said:
With the weak dollar most games seems expensive these days.

 I was going to say something around the same thing, Rockstar North are based in UK so it should go on Pound Sterling....maybe.



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That's a damn shame!! 100 million bucks on one game! I hope this game sells 5-10 million copies WW JUST to see what happens.



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Oyvoyvoyv said:
Wait, is this actually 1000 people full, or part time? Turns out Brawl had less than 20 full timers.
It will be part timers.    During the course of game development, the "team" can fluctuate greatly from just a few to several hundred and then back to down to just a few again as the game near launch.

 



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BTW how take 2 will make a profit on this? Atleast port in PS2 or the Wii or something.



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E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

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Oh, almost forgot!

How much of that went to Gamespot for a 0.5 bump in the review score? :P



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I smell bullshit. just to put a little more hype to GTA.



I doubt this 100m is real - but if it is, this is conclusive proof that this business model plain out sucks. Nintendo would never do this - here is why:

1/ Take the "100m" cost

2/ Average cost of a PS3/360 unit sold to a retailer - say $30US / unit

3/ Average cost of manufacturing + shipping - say $7 / unit 

4/ Hence, average "profit" per unit sold for TakeTwo - $23US

Number of units to break even: 100m / 23 = 4.3m units

...

Lets say the title sells 15m lifetime. So about 11m creating "profit" for TakeTwo.

11m x $23 = 250m US "profit"

 

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Now - here is the real kicker.

Development resources are scarce. You can't get as much as you want - its limited. If the 100m is real, development could suck up 500-1000 developers for 2 years (or 250-500 for 4 years).

During this time (and for the same cost) - Nintendo could create 10-15 'convential' games. Including Brain Training, Zelda, Nintendogs, Galaxy, Brawl, Mario Kart...

Each of these titles (say 5 of them, 5 of them are "failures" - and don't sell) sell around 10m each. Total sales of around 50m units.

Profit per unit may be lower (lower retail cost), but then its Ninty - manufacturing cost is basically free (just shipping costs).

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Regardless - my point is this:

During the time that TakeTwo can create GTA, which sells 15m units (and costs 4m units to make) - Nintendo would create 5 titles that sell 10m units each (and costs 500k units for each 10 titles - 5 success, 5 failures). 

TakeTwo - 10m units profit, Ninty - 45m units profit. No contest.

The risk is that if GTA "only" sells 10m units - TakeTwo "effective" profit halves to only 5m units. 

(reminds me of the Matrix fiasco, that basically sunk Atari - "having" to sell 4m units to break even) 



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Not hard to beleive to be honest. GTA IV has some great production values.



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