Until I see some quality videos showing these pop-ups on a regular basis ( a tree coming up once in a week is certainly no biggie ), I can certainly take no images
( especially gifs ) as fact.

Hah.. Another flammable thread! Good thing I got me Anti-Flame suit.

Well the fact still remains that neither system has a large frame buffer, so something like this does not surprise me at all.

Right firstly, resolution does matter.  The higher the resolution the better.

Now thats out the way onto the discussion.

It is being reported by a good source that the PS3 version of GTA4 runs at only 630p compared to the 720p native resolution of the 360 version.  Right, but the PS3 version runs at 720p, but this is after the PP of the 630p image.  By all intents and purposes, it looks like the PS3 runs the game initially at 630p and uses some nice trickery PP (post processing) to upscale the 630p image to 720p as well as smooth out the image and other effects.  It seems that they may have done this so that the game is alot smooth than normal PS3 games that normally contain loads of jaggies and look very crisp.

Yes this is similar to the Halo 3 issue and in theory GTA4 on the PS3 isn't an HD game.  It seems that by doing this on the PS3, they have not only managed to smooth out the image and add other PP effects, but have managed to control a better framerate and less pop-in.

Also, this could very well start a flame war etc, but as more information is revealed day after day, it seems that even though the PS3 version is a lower resolution original compared to the 360 version, well, all the effects and benefits on having a slightly lower resolution is paying off in other departments and this list seems to be extending further and further by the hour.

• Smoother imagery
• Smoother framerate
• Less pop in
• More realistic colour scheme
• Better lighting
• Faster loading

Why don't you people play the game instead of arguing about how many pixels there are. This thread is stupid.

I think my presence in this thread for too long would be dangerous for the thread's health. I seem to attract PS3 fan(boy)s.

I will only say that if this is true, MikeB is going to need to do some serious explaining to show us why this is proof of the PS3's absolute power advantage over the Xbox 360.

Apparently the rumours are true. These links confirm that it isn't a major factor in the quality of game appearance, but it will add an interesting twist to the pissing contest over which console is more powerful and whether DVD is large enough to handle the resolutions required for current-generation games.

Ironically, Eurogamer speculates that being incapable of rendering at a native 720p has actually helped cover up some of the nastier flaws in the PS3's GTAIV presentation.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=134736

http://xboxer.tv/2008/04/gta_ps3_runs_at_lower_resoluti.html

Well I went over the thread where he originally posted the findings and he seems to be right.
While I realize this game does not come to the Wii, (which is too bad because I would've got it for the Wii but is not good enough to justify a new console purchase), all the Sony fanboys that say that it is worth the smoother frame rate are wrong, because a lower resolution can have a higher frame rate than higher resolution. Can both the HD and the 620 versions "look" the same? I am sure they can, but even if the inferior 620 version looks better, doesn't this prove something that the more powerful machine (supposedly PS3) might not be soo powerful?

If this is true (and it looks like it is) between this, the popups in Xbox 360 version, I think it is funny that it has so many 10s and is being called the best game ever built by some. And this is ignoring the fact that sometimes the game freezes up like Bully.

Call me cynical, but Sony fans do have strange ways.

1. I find it hilarious that THE must have game for PS3 doesn't run in HD, while one of the main attributes for its believed superiority has always been 1080p resolution.
Halo 3 has been bashed without merit for its 630 resolution.

2. All of a sudden the most important thing is less pop-in and better framerate. I totally agree with this, but when it's mentioned that all quality wii games have a stable 60fps framerate and no pop-in or flaws like that, the answer is: "yeah, but it's low-res"

???

I'm not against the PS3 in any way, but the hypocrisy among SOME PS3 fanboys is absolutely stunning.