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Forums - Sales - Famitsu 2007-05-21/ 2007-05-27

Pk9394 said:
tell me what do Forza 2 has that is so hot for japanese that is a must buy??? GT came out at the righ time, car modifying concept was huge back then. you got GT, initial D series, Fast & the furious and alot of other clones. I dont remember which one out first as I'm not debating who is copying who, but when you having tons of car modifying concept at that time, it became a pop cultural trend. This is why GT become so successful. right now the trend cool down and you expect a none established driving franchise to be a system seller???? Dont be suprise when the new GT come out on ps3 it wont do as good as you expected, because that concept is not as hot as it used to be.

LOL comparing froza to GT.

No one in japan gives a rats ass about forza, same goes for most people in the world.

Gran Turismo 4 Prologue (not the final game) did more sales then Forza did world wide.



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"NSB and FFT are the only games in their top 10 that don't make me want to slam my head in a refrigerator door."

Let me try to explain:

1. Kekkaishi (DS) <--- very popular manga in japan

2. Bleach Heat the Soul 4 (PSP) <-- same, Bleach is really popular in japan/asia

3. FFT (PSP) <-- final fantasy tactics, no need to say more

4. Wii sports (Wii) <-- It's Wii Sports, probably the popular Wii game in the WORLD

5. Shin Lucky Star (DS) <-- popular comic

6. More English Training for Adults (DS) <-- well englihsh training

7. New Super Mario Bros (DS) <-- it's mario, sold near 3 million copies in U.S.

8. More Brain Training (DS) <-- A new brain training game, Brain Age and Big Brain Academy both sold 1 million+ copies in US alone

9. Kurikin (DS) <-- Hard to explain but it's a bit similar to pokemon, you collect battles and do battles

10. Momotaro Electric Railway DS: Tokyo and Japan (DS) <-- Train simulator is very popular in japan. Most people take train to work/study everyday so it's an important part of their life.

 

So it's not really that difference to US.

Mario Bros, Brain Training, FFT and Wii Sports are (can be) regular top 10 in U.S. Kurikin is a bit similar to Pokemon so it can do well in U.S. as well. Then if you replace the manga games with the US comic/movie games like Spiderman3/Shrek3. Then what is left is just the english training and railway simulator game.

So don't need to slam your head now? :P Or makes you want to slam your head even more now you realise how "crappy" the U.S. top 10 is as well? XD



Wow... rocketpig you must REALLY not understand Japanese culture... Quite frankly I would FAR prefer to play most of the games in the Top 10 from Japan than I would some of the games in the top 10 for USA for the last weeks... Spiderman 3? TWICE? WHY THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE BUY THIS STEAMING SHIT PILE?



yea he was saying forza would do 80k and 360 sales would rise to 10k, i tried to tell him no



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kber81 said:
rocketpig said:
I think it's safe to say that from a Western perspective, Japanese gamers have lost their friggin' minds. NSB and FFT are the only games in their top 10 that don't make me want to slam my head in a refrigerator door.

  I totally agree. This market is extremly bizzare.


 :( Very extremely Bizzare :(......I really cried Okami only sold around 150k in Japan a typical Japanese game that sold so less...






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Pk9394 said:
tell me what do Forza 2 has that is so hot for japanese that is a must buy???

Forza 2 buyers in Japan, despite being a small crowd, seem to be having lots of fun "drawing".

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZSwiAbidWOc

http://jpdo.com/dd004/43/joyful.cgi

If this feature was appealed more widely, I can see numbers for Forza 2 increase...its a shame this game didnt even make top10.



crappy old school NES games are more entertaining than next-gen games.

fooflexible said:
Dolla Dolla said:
New Super Mario Bros = Energizer bunny Forza 2 did little to nothing. Software will be up for the 360, but looks like hardware will barely get a bump. Was something for PS3 released this week, or is 8k the official bottom for its weekly sales?

 MS screwed up ads for Forza2 now I haven't seen the Japanese ads, but I'm guessing they went the american route and showed off the cars racing. But if you check out some of the home made videos on the web whats hot in Japan in Forza is the paint jobs for cars, they have cars out their with characters from every anime and manga known to mankind. I think that's the kind of think that could help make it a succes over there, but it was a feature that wasn't advertised. Frankly being that I can't find the Forza 2 commercials for japan I'm thinking they hardly advertised the game. How can they barely advertise their biggest response to one of the best franchises on the ps2 that being GT? It could have been alot bigger if done right. At this point I'm feeling they are putting all the eggs in Mystwalker's basket to grab the japanese fanbase.


There were quite a few ads for Forza 2 in the gaming press.  It features a racing spec Nissan Fairlady Z.

If you think that pimping your ride should be the main factor to advertise in a game that is supposed to be a racing sim, and you think that is going to impress Japanese gamers, then you are sorely mistaken.



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Never expected Forza to do much in Japan. People underestimate how MANY different games are available these days - its only the really new/interesting games that will seriously impact the charts (i.e. Wii Sports). You'll see this in weeks to come. (I don't expect RE4 Wii to do much either...).

Comment on Paper Mario - it was at #9 last week, new titles have just pushed it out (for now). It will be back ;)

Brands and new types of games are the only things that will sell. I predict Lair will basically flunk as well (in Japan at least).



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How the hell could MS NOT make the car editing one of the primary focus on Forza ads? Have you guys seen some of the cars that have been made? I hate racing sims but even i said Wow when I saw some of them.

 

This game would have greatly benefitted from the system Sony is using with LBPlanet. Before the game releases. Put a demo online that includes the car/level editor. Let people create awesome-cars/levels and use the best user created cars/levels in the games finalized advertisements/retail-disc. How in the holy hell this wasnt obvious is beyond me. I just dont understand it. MS is clearly trying harder than the other two console makers to mend their primary weakness (The japanese market) its just that they seem to be making some really retarded mistakes.



johnsobas said:
yea he was saying forza would do 80k and 360 sales would rise to 10k, i tried to tell him no

its okay for 360 fans to say stupid crap like that but if i were to say.. i think ninja gaiden sigma would sell 200k people would say i was crazy... guess people only see their console they like succeeding



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