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starcraft said:
TheRealMafoo said:
TheRealMafoo said:
starcraft said:
TheRealMafoo said:
starcraft said:

You can't possibly play RPG's of any description, or you'd love your 360, and hate the PS3.


You said it right here.


Oh. And do you want to include the context, or continue to misrepresent what I'm saying?

lol, so now you think I am taking that out of context? You implied that if he was a gamer, the 360 lineup is so much stronger, that he should hate the PS3. That's the exact context I put it in. I noticed you didn't offer up any other kind of context. You just make a blanket statement and move on.

You have no idea how to admit you have lost an argument do you? God your a piece of work Starcraft :)


I see you decided not to continue. I backed you into a corner and you had no where to go, so you left. Understood. Thanks for the conversion. :)


 My opinion IS that the RPG LIBRARY is far greater than the PS3's.  Note that I said library not line-up.  The only exclusive RPG I can think of that the PS3 has is Folklore, and people keep telling me it's action adventure not an RPG.

So based on it's library, if all you wanted to play was RPG's, would you like the PS3?

(oh, and I know you'd just love it if I dropped out of an argument   Alas, I just went for a shower, gotta smell nice for the Mrs.) 


There is a huge difference between not having an interest in something, and hating it. That's the difference between a fan, and a fanboy.

If all I wanted to play was RPG's, and I could only own one console, I would probably buy a PS3 with BC. All the RPG's for the PS1 and PS2 are better then the exclusive ones on the 360. Also Oblivion plays better on the PS3 then the 360, and the future looks better for the PS3.

Anyway, that's not the point. The point is if I did find everything I wanted to play on the 360, and nothing I wanted to play on the PS3, I would dismiss it as a product I was not interested in. I would not hate it.

The difference between the two is why you're a fanboy, and others are fans. 



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TheRealMafoo said:
 

There is a huge difference between not having an interest in something, and hating it. That's the difference between a fan, and a fanboy.

If all I wanted to play was RPG's, and I could only own one console, I would probably buy a PS3 with BC. All the RPG's for the PS1 and PS2 are better then the exclusive ones on the 360. Also Oblivion plays better on the PS3 then the 360, and the future looks better for the PS3.

Anyway, that's not the point. They point is if I did find everything I wanted to play on the 360, and nothing I wanted to play on the PS3, I would dismiss it as a product I was not interested in. I would not hate it.

The difference between the two is why you're a fanboy, and others are fans.

Ahh, I see.  So your taking the fact that I responded to a sarcastic post with a sarcastic comment as gospel?

Your whole fanboy argument when it comes to me is to state that I'm too crafty to post a blatantly anti-PS3, banworthy comment, but that I slowly chip away at the console.  And yet you think that I would 'slip up' to the extent that I would say "you should hate the PS3" with any seriousness?

You label me a fanboy continuously, and always on the weakest grounds.

Also, would you really pay fivee times the cost of a PS2 for a BC capable PS3 just to play PS2 games?  I wouldn't, but I don't have the option, as Sony are not currently gracing my region with the presense of a BC compatible model.

Personally, I think the future of RPG's on the 360 looks better than that of the PS3, but I see no reason to get into that argument here.

 

OT:  There have been persistent rumours of Bioshock coming to the PS3.  All have thus far proved false.  The rumours have been shot down by 2K as surely as Kojima has shot down the prospect of a 360 version of MGS4. 

 



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starcraft said:
Million said:
starcraft said:
Million said:
 

1.Basing Bioshocks 1 exclusivity on an article that doesn't have abosoloutue credibility , Illogical.

2.Basing your sales estimate on Bioshock 2 with your belief that it Bio won't come out on the PS3 , Illogical.

3.Constantly saing the 360 has the "Complete" version of GTA IV when DLC is add on content , Illogical.

4.Constant bashing and undermining of the PS3 , Illogical.

 

Should I go on ? , I'm sure your post history should show just how much of a fanboy you really are.

1. I didn't. I am talking about an entirely seperate and well known quote from (I think) Ken Levine.

Regardless ,you can't be exactly sure of the terms of the exclusivity , don't say it like it's gospel.

What should we consider gospel if not the word of the game director?

2. Given the former, and given I qualified it as such, it is perfectly legitimate to assume the second game won't do well (see my reply to DMeisterJ).

Honeslt I can't be bothered to , if Bioshock 2 is released on the PS3 even without Bioshock 1 I seriously dought it'll hinder it's sales performance , As a standalone game it's story should make sense to people who haven't played Bioshock 1. And regardless of story line it'll still sell well , gamers generaly have put the main emphasis on the gameplay.

This our opinion either way, but my reasoning is just as justified as yours.

3. I don't say that, I say the 360 version has the "complete experience" as a direct quote from the Rockstar representative found here:

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/26/rockstar-only-gta-iv-on-xbox-has-complete-experience/

So the XBOX 360 has 100% of GTA IV , what are PS3 owners playing 60-70 % ? Please...

Quoted from Joystick

"But I guess if you want the complete experience with the episodes, then yeah, you should buy the 360, I suppose."

If you ask me it sounds like some one paid him to say that . But it couldn't possibly be MS they wouldn't ever do anything like that would they?

He was paid to say that? Come on, now your stretching. I said nothing about 60-70%.

 


 


 


 teaching hitler racial equality would be easier than this. Your impossible to argue with because you refuse to accept loosing.




Million said:
starcraft said:
Million said:
 



teaching hitler racial equality would be easier than this. Your impossible to argue with because you refuse to accept loosing.

Ask someone like makingmusic. He regularly argues with me, but always engaging my arguments rather than just screaming fanboy. Often, he'll prove me wrong, and I'll acknowledge that.

At the end of the day, we are both making valid arguments based on valid logic. But where I can accept that your argument is valid even though I disagree with it, you seem hell-bent on proving that I am an irrational, uncompromising fanboy. To that end, how do you expect us ever to reach an amicable stage of agreeing to disagree, let-alone agreeing full stop?

 

Edit: I might add that what many people in this thread consider to be a "loss" is simply being outnumbered by those who refuse to accept your opinions and beliefs.  You mentioned Hitler, and I'm sure he would have agreed with that line of thinking.

Majority rules, free-speech doesn't.  Aye boys? 



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starcraft said:
TheRealMafoo said:
 

There is a huge difference between not having an interest in something, and hating it. That's the difference between a fan, and a fanboy.

If all I wanted to play was RPG's, and I could only own one console, I would probably buy a PS3 with BC. All the RPG's for the PS1 and PS2 are better then the exclusive ones on the 360. Also Oblivion plays better on the PS3 then the 360, and the future looks better for the PS3.

Anyway, that's not the point. They point is if I did find everything I wanted to play on the 360, and nothing I wanted to play on the PS3, I would dismiss it as a product I was not interested in. I would not hate it.

The difference between the two is why you're a fanboy, and others are fans.

Ahh, I see.  So your taking the fact that I responded to a sarcastic post with a sarcastic comment as gospel?

Your whole fanboy argument when it comes to me is to state that I'm too crafty to post a blatantly anti-PS3, banworthy comment, but that I slowly chip away at the console.  And yet you think that I would 'slip up' to the extent that I would say "you should hate the PS3" with any seriousness?

You label me a fanboy continuously, and always on the weakest grounds.

Also, would you really pay fivee times the cost of a PS2 for a BC capable PS3 just to play PS2 games?  I wouldn't, but I don't have the option, as Sony are not currently gracing my region with the presense of a BC compatible model.

Personally, I think the future of RPG's on the 360 looks better than that of the PS3, but I see no reason to get into that argument here.

 

OT:  There have been persistent rumours of Bioshock coming to the PS3.  All have thus far proved false.  The rumours have been shot down by 2K as surely as Kojima has shot down the prospect of a 360 version of MGS4. 

 


Ahh, I see. Your not a fanboy. It seems myself and the dozens of other people here are just plane wrong. You, above everyone else on this site, being labeled a fanboy is due to nothing but wild imagination. Or maybe we all secretly got together, and targeted you as the MS fan to label fanboy.

It could be one of those, or the fact that the things you say, above everyone else on this site, give you that distinction. 

The funny thing is you don't see it. You think you are right, and somehow far smarter then the dozens of people who argu with you.

I hope you didn't slip in the shower, I mean with a head as big as yours, I am amazed you can keep your balance on such a slick surface.

Well, your points are equally slippery, so I guess you have had a lot of practice ;) 

 



TheRealMafoo said:
 

Ahh, I see. Your not a fanboy. It seems myself and the dozens of other people here are just plane wrong. You, above everyone else on this site, being labeled a fanboy is due to nothing but wild imagination. Or maybe we all secretly got together, and targeted you as the MS fan to label fanboy.

It could be one of those, or the fact that the things you say, above everyone else on this site, give you that distinction.

The funny thing is you don't see it. You think you are right, and somehow far smarter then the dozens of people who argu with you.

I hope you didn't slip in the shower, I mean with a head as big as yours, I am amazed you can keep your balance on such a slick surface.

Well, your points are equally slippery, so I guess you have had a lot of practice ;)

 

Oh, its no longer "everyone" its just "dozens" now huh? Let's clarify this point. There are a number of people, a number I could count on my two hands, that routinely band together with you to oppose anything and everything I say. We saw an example from Spartan above, an example of him attacking my comments in the linked thread, despite noone else in the thread having the slightest issue with them. On the contrary, some found his attack so ridiculous they felt compelled to defend my point of view.

You see, you are incapable of having a discussion with me without calling me a fanboy or a troll. Even if you combine it with a legitimate argument, you always seem to feel that that argument won't suffice unless accompanied by an attempt to discredit my claims by labelling me a fanboy. And yet, I cannot think of a single time I have accused you of being a fanboy without first receiving the same insult myself. Is the idea that we should have to compete on even terms, each being credited with good faith and intelligence, so ridiculous and prepostrous to you?

 



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starcraft said:

There are a number of people, a number I could count on my two hands, that routinely band together with you to oppose anything and everything I say. 

You see, you are incapable of having a discussion with me without calling me a fanboy...


 So you think we are banding together, as apposed to independently coming to the same conclusions? You don't find it odd that you are the only 360 fan that we do that to? You think we secretly hate you, and no one else?

Try and step outside the argument for a moment, and realize why every time you post your "opinion", these threads happen, and they happen with or without me.

They happen because your comments are so biased, it's to the point of laughable. There any many 360 fans, like Legend, and Selnor that do not get into these things. It's because they are obvious fans of the 360, but not so swept away by it to completely misguide them from the truth. You on the other hand say some of the most outlandish shit, and don't even realize it.

And as for the part I bolded, I think you misunderstand me. The only reason I ever have a discussion with you, is when your being a fanboy. Calling you a fanboy is not something I eventually descend to. It's the point of the conversion in the first place. I usually just read your rubbish, laugh a little, and move on. Sometimes, I think it's so crazy, that I take fun in commenting about it.



Damn this is awesome if true, but I hope this makes 2K create some additional content for the game. I'm sure a new subsection to explore with maybe some new journals, some added plasmids, and other stats would be enough for a second purchase.



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TheRealMafoo said:
 

So you think we are banding together, as apposed to independently coming to the same conclusions? You don't find it odd that you are the only 360 fan that we do that to? You think we secretly hate you, and no one else?

Try and step outside the argument for a moment, and realize why every time you post your "opinion", these threads happen, and they happen with or without me.

They happen because your comments are so biased, it's to the point of laughable. There any many 360 fans, like Legend, and Selnor that do not get into these things. It's because they are obvious fans of the 360, but not so swept away by it to completely misguide them from the truth. You on the other hand say some of the most outlandish shit, and don't even realize it.

And as for the part I bolded, I think you misunderstand me. The only reason I ever have a discussion with you, is when your being a fanboy. Calling you a fanboy is not something I eventually descend to. It's the point of the conversion in the first place. I usually just read your rubbish, laugh a little, and move on. Sometimes, I think it's so crazy, that I take fun in commenting about it.

The answer to most of what you have written here is simple, and you already know what it is. I don't think any of you secretely hate me. I don't think you go about your day thinking, "god I hate that Starcraft bloke." But I do think that I've disagreed with the bunch of you (and lets not kid ourselves, the opinions of the group we are discussing are always identical and always finely tuned AGAINST mine) one too many times for you to be comfortable with to the point that you have taken issue with it and feel the need to comment whenever you see me doing so.

You would think that with all the time you guys spend having a go at me, you could bookmark just a few of the examples your talking about (since they apparently happen so regularly). Imagine how quickly these arguments would be over if you really could establish a contextually-accurate history of "outlandish shit." But no, instead we have only your regular assertions that I am a fanboy backed up by nothing. Even in threads that are clearly labelled as "rumour," we have the little group we are discussing ardently accusing me of spreading lies and hypocritical deceit about the PS3.

And just for the hell of it (because as you said, other 360 fans couldn't possibly be dragged into these things by the SDF), here are two threads from just the last 24 hours where Selnor is getting whaled on by a bunch of PS3 fanboys.

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=25050

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=25065

 



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