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shams on 26 April 2008

IMO, this is a huge slap in the face of Sony - here is why:

Finally, a game that has technically pushed both machines to the limit. No limits on dev money either - they spent what was needed getting the engine for both games cranked up to maximum.

The PS3 is supposed to be technically leap-years ahead of the 360. Well - according to GTA4, it isn't.

In fact, the machines are so close - that there is basically no difference.

(the "pop-in" difference is almost certain to be because the PS3 GTA runs from a hard disk, whereas the 360 version runs from disc - hence a big difference in seek times, which heavily effects any sort of streaming. I have to wonder how the PS3 version would run without a hard disk install...).

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If there was any doubt for me, I'm definitely getting a 360 (rather than a PS3) now - GTA4 is one game that could have swayed me the other way. And its not on account for any extra content - its on account of the game library. The 360 has a vastly superior library, and I expect this to continue until the generation is over.

(for me anyway, Banjo Kazooie >>> MGS + GT easily)



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Lavos on 26 April 2008

Ahhh... I'm just exited for the review...
I'm playing the PS3 version anyway... because I only have that console... duhhh....

Anyway... this games rules.. but only for a month or so... you know... Snake it's coming to town...



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bobobologna on 26 April 2008
shams said:

IMO, this is a huge slap in the face of Sony - here is why:

Finally, a game that has technically pushed both machines to the limit. No limits on dev money either - they spent what was needed getting the engine for both games cranked up to maximum.

The PS3 is supposed to be technically leap-years ahead of the 360. Well - according to GTA4, it isn't.

In fact, the machines are so close - that there is basically no difference.

(the "pop-in" difference is almost certain to be because the PS3 GTA runs from a hard disk, whereas the 360 version runs from disc - hence a big difference in seek times, which heavily effects any sort of streaming. I have to wonder how the PS3 version would run without a hard disk install...).

...

If there was any doubt for me, I'm definitely getting a 360 (rather than a PS3) now - GTA4 is one game that could have swayed me the other way. And its not on account for any extra content - its on account of the game library. The 360 has a vastly superior library, and I expect this to continue until the generation is over.

(for me anyway, Banjo Kazooie >>> MGS + GT easily)


That is poor logic.  BTW, I also think that both consoles are so close that there really won't be a "winner" for more powerful machine.  But thinking that a crossplatform game would push a console as hard and as far as an exclusive seems kind of, well, dumb.  Take for example id tech 5.  It can use a megatexture of 128,000x128,000.  In 24-bit color, with no compression, that's 49 GB.  For a single texture.  Amazing technology that could potentially take great advantage of the PS3's bluray disc and guaranteed HDD.  Assuming that the same game isn't built with the XBox360 in mind, with it's DVD9 and non-guaranteed HDD.

And it seems like your decision was made way before GTA4 was released.  Would you really sacrifice a "vastly superior library" for a single game? 



Aj_habfan on 26 April 2008

I was hoping there would be no issues at all, but with a 10.0 and few problems on PS3, I am very satisfied.



solojohlo on 26 April 2008

Shouldn't we all be celebrating that rockstar have accomplished a major step forwards in videogames as art argument ( Fox news will have something to say about that I'm sure) Rather than bickering over what are probably some miniscule differences that the average player wouldn't even notice?



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starcraft on 26 April 2008
sailordude said:
IGN is not the only review that has said this. their not making this up starcraft, you will have to face the facts some day.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/26/rockstar-only-gta-iv-on-xbox-has-complete-experience/

Now you were saying something about ownage? 

 



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starcraft on 26 April 2008
LongLiveTheBeatles said:
starcraft said:
PooperScooper said:
Starcraft - do you want me to write an email to IGN asking them to please explain to me why they didnt mark the 360 version down for some of the same reasons they marked some other games down for in the past?

Absolutely. Ask them why the difference between the versions wasn't large enough to justify even a .1 mark down for the 360. It would solve this whole argument one way or another.

I really think that the decision not to dock a point or two was to prevent a fanboy war like the one were having now. If they had declared the PS3 version numerically superior, the site would've lost its credibility in the eyes of people like you. Unless the DLC is a new island, I'm going with the PS3 version. If the missions they added really completed the game, I would consider it but as every reviewer has said so far, the PS3 version is graphically superior. I'll make a bet with someone that the PS3 gameranking and Meta-critic scores will be higher than the 360's.

Speak for yourself.  I consider IGN to be a website of very high integrity (the US site anyway).  This wouldn't change if they had marked the 360 version down.

It would be ridiculous not to mark the 360 version down if it deserved it.   

 



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starcraft on 26 April 2008
bobobologna said:
LongLiveTheBeatles said:
starcraft said:
PooperScooper said:
Starcraft - do you want me to write an email to IGN asking them to please explain to me why they didnt mark the 360 version down for some of the same reasons they marked some other games down for in the past?

Absolutely. Ask them why the difference between the versions wasn't large enough to justify even a .1 mark down for the 360. It would solve this whole argument one way or another.

I really think that the decision not to dock a point or two was to prevent a fanboy war like the one were having now. If they had declared the PS3 version numerically superior, the site would've lost its credibility in the eyes of people like you. Unless the DLC is a new island, I'm going with the PS3 version. If the missions they added really completed the game, I would consider it but as every reviewer has said so far, the PS3 version is graphically superior. I'll make a bet with someone that the PS3 gameranking and Meta-critic scores will be higher than the 360's.


I agree about the decision to not dock points. I mean, the PS3 version of R6: Vegas 2 is slightly worse than the XBox360 version. So it gets 0.2 points docked off. Ok, whatever, they have their right to do it. And in the end, no one cared because an 8.4 is not that much different than an 8.2. But if they gave the PS3 version of GTA4 a perfect 10, and the XBox360 version a 9.8, can you imagine the uproar this would cause in the gaming community?

But thats just it.  They DO dock points where one game is noticably better than the other.  But they didn't with GTAIV so.......

 



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libellule on 26 April 2008

WOW so much spin from some users !!!

who said the Xbox360 was bad ???

it is just the PS3 version is better technically !

Just keep this on your head.

It doesn't change that a more important content is going to be released on the Xbox360 in fews month (3-6months). I would still prefer play the Xbox360 version with the 2 add-ons than a PS3 version (well I dont care about GTA but this game seems VERY good).

Of course, I will still prefer to get a PS3. The only Xbox360 game I want is Bioshock1 and it is coming to PS3 this fall according to EGM ^^



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starcraft on 26 April 2008
shams said:

IMO, this is a huge slap in the face of Sony - here is why:

Finally, a game that has technically pushed both machines to the limit. No limits on dev money either - they spent what was needed getting the engine for both games cranked up to maximum.

The PS3 is supposed to be technically leap-years ahead of the 360. Well - according to GTA4, it isn't.

In fact, the machines are so close - that there is basically no difference.

(the "pop-in" difference is almost certain to be because the PS3 GTA runs from a hard disk, whereas the 360 version runs from disc - hence a big difference in seek times, which heavily effects any sort of streaming. I have to wonder how the PS3 version would run without a hard disk install...).

...

If there was any doubt for me, I'm definitely getting a 360 (rather than a PS3) now - GTA4 is one game that could have swayed me the other way. And its not on account for any extra content - its on account of the game library. The 360 has a vastly superior library, and I expect this to continue until the generation is over.

(for me anyway, Banjo Kazooie >>> MGS + GT easily)

I do think that both consoles could be better optomized with exclusive development, however I agree that GTAIV is the best multiplatform test we are ever likely to get.  It is looking more and more like those that cling to the whole "PS3 is loads more powerful" mantra are going to eat crow.  But rather than thinking about what would happen to the PS3 without the HDD install, imagine what would happen if Microsoft ever allowed HDD mandating.

Oh, and I totally agree on Banjo 

 



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