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Louie_86 said:

What does he speciffically mean by that. Cant imagine its just an old mans ramblings because modern world is weird.

Ill prob get banned but

MASSIVE amounts of imigrants who do NOT wish to respect western culture/massive islam immigration,you can get jailed if you speak against it.

Many more rape's

Murders

Drugs

A lot of stabbings where i live from migrants who only get a year or so when they murder others.

Just a LOT more criminals.

Last edited by xl-klaudkil - on 18 November 2025

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xl-klaudkil said:
Louie_86 said:

What does he speciffically mean by that. Cant imagine its just an old mans ramblings because modern world is weird.

Ill prob get banned but

MASSIVE amounts of imigrants who do NOT wish to respect western culture/massive islam immigration,you can get jailes if you speak against it.

Many more rape's

Murders

Drugs

A lot of stabbings where i live from miners who only get a year or so when they murder others.

Just a LOT more criminals.

Crime rates in USA have dropped enormously over the last 35 years tho. Like, seriously a huge decrease. 



Louie_86 said:
xl-klaudkil said:

Ill prob get banned but

MASSIVE amounts of imigrants who do NOT wish to respect western culture/massive islam immigration,you can get jailes if you speak against it.

Many more rape's

Murders

Drugs

A lot of stabbings where i live from miners who only get a year or so when they murder others.

Just a LOT more criminals.

Crime rates in USA have dropped enormously over the last 35 years tho. Like, seriously a huge decrease. 

In europe especially UK france and even germany the crimes listed have skyrocketted - also the countries that recieve the most migrants

In contrast Poland - has strict immigiration and accepts zero illegal migrants which resulted in much safer streets and ZERO Terrorist attacks



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Last year some guy from that wonderful religion of peace and love killed some people on Bourbon Street in New Orleans. They hate gays. There have been many instanced of gays killed by Muslims in places where their wonderful religion of peace is dominant. Basically, if we keep opening up the borders, then this problem may get worse because regular americans aren't doing things like that.

Their hate for gays and women is a horrible thing and i'm not going to stand for it.  I can point out systematic discrimination towards gays and women in many muslim dominant nations if anybody is curious.  I can see that is not a good idea to come out nor is it advantageous to have a vagina in these nations unfortunately.  




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SvennoJ said:
sc94597 said:

And it would be far worse for far longer if Hitler and Nazi Germany persisted. Most hundred year olds aren't going to be able to make these sort of nuanced assessments, so I am not sure what the news of this is, other than maybe to fuel fascist propaganda? Like what other implication is there from these comments than Nazism shouldn't have been defeated during WWII? 

What it means is that we have let his sacrifice be for nothing as we're well underway to new fascist oppression. It doesn't mean that he wanted Nazism to steamroll the world in the 1940s, it means that its happening again. It means we haven't learned from history and are repeating the same mistakes that led to Nazi Germany.

Yes he can make that assessment. 

No, he can't because it's wholly-flawed logic.

If he hadn't fought, if no one had fought, there wouldn't be a country to lament about. There wouldn't be a world he doesn't care for. There would be nothing. No interview for him, no opinion for you and no reply from me. If the three of us had been born into that world, and that is a big if considering... we'd all be living in some sort of Tolkien nightmare where Frodo doesn't save the day.

The man was dead wrong.

Period.  

Last edited by JackHandy - on 18 November 2025

shavenferret said:

then this problem may get worse because regular americans aren't doing things like that.


Timothy McVeigh, David Koresh, Stephen Paddock, Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Brenda Spencer, Charles Manson... all US citizens, all madman/women, and the list could go on and on and on.

Do not allow certain demagogues to manipulate you. If there is an enemy, it's the people in power, not the powerless that they're pointing their fingers at while they rob you blind.



xl-klaudkil said:

If you been to europe, it has changed a lot theze past 10 years.
A LOT

And not in a good way.

I mean even as things go to hell with American politics from both sides.  Nothing really changes for the average person.  The average person in the suburbs or rural areas still go to work, come home, take the kid to soccer practice, make dinner, watch a little tv, and get to bed most weekdays.



JackHandy said:
SvennoJ said:

What it means is that we have let his sacrifice be for nothing as we're well underway to new fascist oppression. It doesn't mean that he wanted Nazism to steamroll the world in the 1940s, it means that its happening again. It means we haven't learned from history and are repeating the same mistakes that led to Nazi Germany.

Yes he can make that assessment. 

No, he can't because it's wholly-flawed logic.

If he hadn't fought, if no one had fought, there wouldn't be a country to lament about. There wouldn't be a world he doesn't care for. There would be nothing. No interview for him, no opinion for you and no reply from me. If the three of us had been born into that world, and that is a big if considering... we'd all be living in some sort of Tolkien nightmare where Frodo doesn't save the day.

The man was dead wrong.

Period.  

I disagree.  If he and his friends had not fought that does not mean other Brits would not have and that the overall outcome would change. I believe you think he is saying that the British should not have fought at all.  I took it as he and his mates fought and lost lives and in the end, the country is less free (my guess is speech and what seems to be an invasion under the guise migration).

To me his words seemed very personal and not talking about just letting the Nazi's and their allies win.  I don't know that even had GB fallen, that Japan would no longer bomb Hawaii drawing the American Logistics Monster into the fray.  I have only seen snippets of the interview but do not recall him saying they should not have fought, only thinking it was not worth it.

Here is a shit analogy:  Some a-hole grabs your girl's ass in front of you.  You take a poke at him and end up getting your ass kicked and your nose broke.  Two weeks later she dumps you.  Should you have just tucked tail and let it slide?  No.  in the end was it worth the broken nose that is still healing since you no longer even have the girl? You might think not ... some situations are just lose lose 



shavenferret said:

Last year some guy from that wonderful religion of peace and love killed some people on Bourbon Street in New Orleans. They hate gays. There have been many instanced of gays killed by Muslims in places where their wonderful religion of peace is dominant. Basically, if we keep opening up the borders, then this problem may get worse because regular americans aren't doing things like that.

Their hate for gays and women is a horrible thing and i'm not going to stand for it.  I can point out systematic discrimination towards gays and women in many muslim dominant nations if anybody is curious.  I can see that is not a good idea to come out nor is it advantageous to have a vagina in these nations unfortunately.  


Since you're that worried about the LGBT community and that willing to stand up for us, I would like to introduce you to this problem: https://translegislation.com/

"In 2025, anti-trans bills continue to be introduced across the country. We track legislation that seeks to block trans people from receiving basic healthcare, education, legal recognition, and the right to publicly exist."

There are far more American born queerphobes in America than immigrant queerphobes, so I hope you look seriously at that problem.