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Davy said:
SvennoJ said:

Compared to PS6 yeah. If AI puts the cut off at 3 years prior PS5 launch, then 6 years prior PS6 launch hardware likely won't cut it.

PS6 will have 9 or 10 cores, 6 cores might struggle.

The PS6 is expected to feature an AMD "Orion" APU with a total of 9 to 10 Zen 6 CPU cores, consisting of 7-8 high-performance Zen 6c cores and 1-2 Zen 6 LP cores dedicated to the operating system. This architecture is designed to free up the high-performance cores for gaming and multitasking.

However if you're content with lower fps, you can still play ps6 games on that. But they'll look and play better on the console. 

Choices, new motherboard/CPU now or wait for DDR6 :/ And of course it's not going to be cheap when it releases. Trying to future proof a PC can easily turn into higher costs than upgrading a bit more often. Prices aren't linear between low-mid-high end PC hardware. 

I think i will have problem for sure, i choosed 6-core instead 8-core so the gpu will not bottleneck due performance.

Imagine what will happen with future gpus with 300% performance of mine. :P

I don't have to, I still use a GTX 1060, 4.4 tflops, and a ps5 pro 16.7 tflops ;)
My CPU though is the bottleneck at 6 cores / 2.2ghz. (GPU is when trying to go over 1080p)



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SvennoJ said:
Davy said:

I think i will have problem for sure, i choosed 6-core instead 8-core so the gpu will not bottleneck due performance.

Imagine what will happen with future gpus with 300% performance of mine. :P

I don't have to, I still use a GTX 1060, 4.4 tflops, and a ps5 pro 16.7 tflops ;)
My CPU though is the bottleneck at 6 cores / 2.2ghz. (GPU is when trying to go over 1080p)

PS5 is a good choice but i have played dozens of games on pc with zero cost, so i guess i have saved something like 1k$-2k$ from games. :P



Is there such a thing as purchasing PC games physically? Random thought lol but I love physical ownership. O/w I might just purchase the discounted PS5/NS2 editions of games I really liked playing on PC.



firebush03 said:

Is there such a thing as purchasing PC games physically? Random thought lol but I love physical ownership. O/w I might just purchase the discounted PS5/NS2 editions of games I really liked playing on PC.

Some get a physical release, on DVD... It's rare though and you still need to download updates / the rest.
PC never moved on from DVD installation and it's rare to even find a PC with a disc drive nowadays.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/dvd-disks-for-fs2020/359513






SvennoJ said:
Davy said:

I think i will have problem for sure, i choosed 6-core instead 8-core so the gpu will not bottleneck due performance.

Imagine what will happen with future gpus with 300% performance of mine. :P

I don't have to, I still use a GTX 1060, 4.4 tflops, and a ps5 pro 16.7 tflops ;)
My CPU though is the bottleneck at 6 cores / 2.2ghz. (GPU is when trying to go over 1080p)

I can't remember ever seeing any hexacore CPU with this low a clock speed, I think even the slowest Phenom hexacore is 2.6Ghz and Core-based ones over 3Ghz. Unless it was a server CPU, of course...



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firebush03 said:
Davy said:

The only way to keep a gaming pc for 9 years is to know the playstation 6 specs then build a pc that can handle it, so you can play games for the 7 years gen cycle + 2 years with cross gen games.

Just wait and play games you like on playstation 5.

There isn’t a PC I could merely upgrade the GPU(?) of to get PS6 games performing decently smooth? Can others confirm or deny? I’m not a fan of playing the “wait two years for next gen” because that’ll turn into “wait two years for it to not cost an arm and a leg.” This PC at the 2025-purchased should last me at least through the first few years of PS6.

There is PC that you can buy now, and with just a GPU upgrade in few years you can have PS6 performance.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
SvennoJ said:

I don't have to, I still use a GTX 1060, 4.4 tflops, and a ps5 pro 16.7 tflops ;)
My CPU though is the bottleneck at 6 cores / 2.2ghz. (GPU is when trying to go over 1080p)

I can't remember ever seeing any hexacore CPU with this low a clock speed, I think even the slowest Phenom hexacore is 2.6Ghz and Core-based ones over 3Ghz. Unless it was a server CPU, of course...

It's a laptop CPU, i7-8750H. It can boost up to 4.1 ghz, but with games it then quickly gets too hot and throttles. So you can only really use it for gaming with Turbo disabled for steady performance, hence 2.2 ghz.

At least with a desktop you don't have to manage heat as well!

I guess there is no way to throttle it to 3.0ghz, dunno how Turbo works but ThrottleStop only has an on/off toggle for it. Same as setting max processor state to 99% in Windows (which doesn't work anymore, hence ThrottleStop)

Yeah it's obsolete
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-8750H+%40+2.20GHz&id=3237

It was good for 1080p gaming though, just now starting to struggle with new releases.



SvennoJ said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

I can't remember ever seeing any hexacore CPU with this low a clock speed, I think even the slowest Phenom hexacore is 2.6Ghz and Core-based ones over 3Ghz. Unless it was a server CPU, of course...

It's a laptop CPU, i7-8750H. It can boost up to 4.1 ghz, but with games it then quickly gets too hot and throttles. So you can only really use it for gaming with Turbo disabled for steady performance, hence 2.2 ghz.

At least with a desktop you don't have to manage heat as well!

I guess there is no way to throttle it to 3.0ghz, dunno how Turbo works but ThrottleStop only has an on/off toggle for it. Same as setting max processor state to 99% in Windows (which doesn't work anymore, hence ThrottleStop)

Yeah it's obsolete
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-8750H+%40+2.20GHz&id=3237

It was good for 1080p gaming though, just now starting to struggle with new releases.

I don't like small screens for gaming , and you need to pay double for the same performance.

I bought a 32 inch 1440p monitor before 5 years and it's the best upgrade i had ever made.

The only reason to have a gaming laptop would be if i had a job that I had to travel all the time, but I don't. :P



SvennoJ said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

I can't remember ever seeing any hexacore CPU with this low a clock speed, I think even the slowest Phenom hexacore is 2.6Ghz and Core-based ones over 3Ghz. Unless it was a server CPU, of course...

It's a laptop CPU, i7-8750H. It can boost up to 4.1 ghz, but with games it then quickly gets too hot and throttles. So you can only really use it for gaming with Turbo disabled for steady performance, hence 2.2 ghz.

At least with a desktop you don't have to manage heat as well!

I guess there is no way to throttle it to 3.0ghz, dunno how Turbo works but ThrottleStop only has an on/off toggle for it. Same as setting max processor state to 99% in Windows (which doesn't work anymore, hence ThrottleStop)

Yeah it's obsolete
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-8750H+%40+2.20GHz&id=3237

It was good for 1080p gaming though, just now starting to struggle with new releases.

Still better than my old one, a 7700HQ coupled with a 1050Ti. And that Dell was so badly built it throttled on both of them without needing to stress them...



Davy said:
SvennoJ said:

It's a laptop CPU, i7-8750H. It can boost up to 4.1 ghz, but with games it then quickly gets too hot and throttles. So you can only really use it for gaming with Turbo disabled for steady performance, hence 2.2 ghz.

At least with a desktop you don't have to manage heat as well!

I guess there is no way to throttle it to 3.0ghz, dunno how Turbo works but ThrottleStop only has an on/off toggle for it. Same as setting max processor state to 99% in Windows (which doesn't work anymore, hence ThrottleStop)

Yeah it's obsolete
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-8750H+%40+2.20GHz&id=3237

It was good for 1080p gaming though, just now starting to struggle with new releases.

I don't like small screens for gaming , and you need to pay double for the same performance.

I bought a 32 inch 1440p monitor before 5 years and it's the best upgrade i had ever made.

The only reason to have a gaming laptop would be if i had a job that I had to travel all the time, but I don't. :P

My reason is space. Laptops fit where desktops plus big screens will not. I do use a mechanical keyboard with it, just resting on top of the shitty laptop keyboard and of course a good gaming mouse (eff those track pads)

The 144Hz screen of it is actually quite good and bigger sizes doesn't mean much when you tend to sit a lot closer to a laptop screen, like 1-1.5 ft, compared to 2-3 feet to a PC screen. 1 to 1.5ft from 15.6" gives you 59 to 41 degree fov, 2 to 3 ft from 32" gives you 60 to 42 degree fov, same ;)

But yeah it doesn't compare to a 65" 4K HDR screen, it has some fake windows HDR for videos, not impressive. Of course for proper HDR you're better off with consoles, and even better on PSVR2 (but games that actually handle HDR well are still rare)

Anyway if you have the space, don't bother with gaming laptops. Expensive, run hot, loud (fans), at most an hour of gaming on battery.  

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Still better than my old one, a 7700HQ coupled with a 1050Ti. And that Dell was so badly built it throttled on both of them without needing to stress them...

Ugh Dell laptops, my work always got them from Dell, Those things were build to die within 2 years. 

My previous 'gaming' laptop was a Toshiba Satellite with GT 740m. It only had a vent on the side and it ran so hot I burned my fingers on it. It was good to keep your coffee hot.