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Griffin on 25 April 2008

You are a god makingmusic, thx for finding and putting up the gifs.



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SpartanFX on 25 April 2008

makingmusic

Thanks man,,,those are awesome



 

 

 

disolitude on 25 April 2008
Viper1 said:
disolitude said:
Viper1 said:
disolitude said:

...who still thinks that was in game footage back then?


Well, it obviously wasn't since GG said it wasn't.

Oh Reaaally???

The reason why I asked is because I ran in to this article...dated Feb 2008.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=93621

They have always been very confusing about the subject matter saying that it was what they are "aiming for" and that it was a "PS3 capable" demo.

They still won't come out and cleanly say..."our game won't look like this unless we wait for PS4"

You asked if the E3 2005 trailer was in game based solely on a Eurogamer article that clearly stated it's a target render?

 

"Everyone else named the E3 2005 video for what it was - a target render...."

 

Are you claiming GG was lying?

 


 Again...new terminology..."target render"

Here is the full quote...

"Everyone else named the E3 2005 video for what it was - a target render of what we thought would be possible on the PS3."

Yet here we are 3 years later...nothing looks as close to that movie on PS3 (or 360) including killzone 2.

I don't mean to be harsh on killzone 2 as I liked part 1...but I wanted to point out a brilliant marketing strategy that involves a pre-rendered cutscene, a "jet lagged" and "confused" employee and using new terminology to describe something that may be possible in the near future with a console system...like 10 years down the road.



Viper1 on 25 April 2008

Target renders aren't new terminology but more to the point, what are debating then?

Do you honestly think that was rendered in game?



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dbot on 25 April 2008
disolitude said:
Viper1 said:
disolitude said:
Viper1 said:
disolitude said:

...who still thinks that was in game footage back then?


Well, it obviously wasn't since GG said it wasn't.

Oh Reaaally???

The reason why I asked is because I ran in to this article...dated Feb 2008.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=93621

They have always been very confusing about the subject matter saying that it was what they are "aiming for" and that it was a "PS3 capable" demo.

They still won't come out and cleanly say..."our game won't look like this unless we wait for PS4"

You asked if the E3 2005 trailer was in game based solely on a Eurogamer article that clearly stated it's a target render?

 

"Everyone else named the E3 2005 video for what it was - a target render...."

 

Are you claiming GG was lying?

 


 Again...new terminology..."target render"

Here is the full quote...

"Everyone else named the E3 2005 video for what it was - a target render of what we thought would be possible on the PS3."

Yet here we are 3 years later...nothing looks as close to that movie on PS3 (or 360) including killzone 2.

I don't mean to be harsh on killzone 2 as I liked part 1...but I wanted to point out a brilliant marketing strategy that involves a pre-rendered cutscene, a "jet lagged" and "confused" employee and using new terminology to describe something that may be possible in the near future with a console system...like 10 years down the road.


The only problem with this strategy is that both Sony and Guerilla Games have been getting killed in forums since the 2005 E3.  In fact, Killzone 2 has become a flashpoint for fanboyism on gaming sites. 



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

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disolitude on 25 April 2008
Viper1 said:
Target renders aren't new terminology but more to the point, what are debating then?

Do you honestly think that was rendered in game?

No I don't think it was a render. I was hoping to stir up a discussion about these E3 demos...and the fanboys they fuel...if they are worth jack shit at all.

New Wii game (Conduit) promisses PS3 like graphics...i did not look at the video they posted cause frankly I just dont believe companies anymore when it comes to visual game demos.

When its in my hands and I'm playing it and saying "wow"...like i will with GTA4 this weekend when my roomate finishes his shift and comes home from Rogers Video :) ...this is when my fanboyism starts.



Viper1 on 25 April 2008

Dis, G Games themselves claimed it was just a target render.  It would be dumb as hell if it were in game to claim it as a target render.

 

Says Nofsinger. "With Conduit, we are trying to make a Wii game that looks like a 360 title."

It was X360, not PS3 they claimed and that's hardly the same thing.

With Conduit, it was the guys opinion and as we know visuals are subjective.  With GG and KZ2, the fact the E3 2005 trailer is a target render or in game is not a matter or subjectivity or opinion....either it is or it isn't.

 



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