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More left leaning 52 61.90%
 
More right leaning 32 38.10%
 
Total:84

I'm left leaning, with the caveat that in this country US Democrats would be considered center-right.



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ST.Tachyon said:

Reading through this comment i realized something. To leftist people anyone who is on right side is rich, money hungry, nazi, while, for them, these on left side are nice, oppressed, humble people. I guess you people need to read a little more what Nazi mean. The way you people think have much much more in common to nazi view of the world then anything on right side of the thing.
Talking about brainwashed people.

Few people are going to say a center-right liberal-conservative is evil. 

It just so happens to be the case that the contemporary right-wing in many developed countries have rejected mainstream center-right politics in way of far-right nonsense. 

And yes, the radical right is a very callous, xenophobic, hierarchy-adoring bunch and deserves to be treated as they are. 

Likewise, if there were a mainstream Stalinist or even Marxist-Leninist left-wing in our contemporary period you'd see a bunch of people on the left considering them to be a threat in the same way. But at least in the country I live in (U.S) they're marginalized to the <.01% of the population who join the PSL and ACP. 



ST.Tachyon said:
Ryuu96 said:

You didn't read the comments at all. Please point out who even suggested that "anyone who is on the right side is a Nazi" the only mention of the Nazi's in this thread has been in relation to the AfD and...The Nazi Party itself, Lmao. You're looking for drama and desperate to rush in to defend criticism towards the far-right based on a grand total of one political party being accused of being Nazis.

Ironically the one making the most extreme generalisations is yourself with your accusation.

It was mentioned multiple time, both nazi and how people on right are just bad and on left are angels, you most likely just read and take what you want to. But either way i am not right or left since i am not from US but unfortunately US politics affect all of us and i hate that. For the rest of the world no matter who in in charge in US, left or right, we are F-ed up.

So basically, in a thread which is 3 pages long, you were unable to provide proof of your accusation? Lol.

I've read every single comment in this thread and I can say with confidence that you're talking complete nonsense in relation to the suggestion that left wing users are saying anyone who is on the right side is a Nazi and in relation the Nazis, I'll say again, the only people who have been accused of being Nazis are the Nazi Party and the AfD. So what are you upset about? That the Nazi Party was called Nazis or that the AfD were called Nazis by a German user and myself? Lol.

The vast majority of comments in here are not even generalising even beyond the Nazi issue and those that could maybe be perceived as generalising is in the lightest possible sense of the word, and nowhere near your original accusation. So ultimately in the end you're upset that AfD and the Nazi Party were accused of being Nazis. Gotcha.

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Again, if you are not capable to understand analogy on how people on left call others nazi without actually saying it, then i cant help with that.
I joined this site to talk about games, why i started with political topics i dont have a clue when i know that talking about politics with people from US is like taking tooth out without anesthesia, just painful.



sc94597 said:
ST.Tachyon said:

Reading through this comment i realized something. To leftist people anyone who is on right side is rich, money hungry, nazi, while, for them, these on left side are nice, oppressed, humble people. I guess you people need to read a little more what Nazi mean. The way you people think have much much more in common to nazi view of the world then anything on right side of the thing.
Talking about brainwashed people.

Few people are going to say a center-right liberal-conservative is evil. 

It just so happens to be the case that the contemporary right-wing in many developed countries have rejected mainstream center-right politics in way of far-right nonsense. 

And yes, the radical right is a very callous, xenophobic, hierarchy-adoring bunch and deserves to be treated as they are. 

Likewise, if there were a mainstream Stalinist or even Marxist-Leninist left-wing in our contemporary period you'd see a bunch of people on the left considering them to be a threat in the same way. But at least in the country I live in (U.S) they're marginalized to the <.01% of the population who join the PSL and ACP. 

Especially since a large chunk of Europe has often been ruled by centre-right parties, Lol. Some centre-left but not often a truly left-wing party. Eastern Europe in particular are pretty Conservative but I wouldn't accuse them of all being Nazis. I hate them but I wouldn't say the Tories are Nazis, likewise I wouldn't make that same accusation of Germany's current ruling party or Poland's PiS, etc. There are other words I would use but not Nazi, Lmao. But accuse a few political parties across hundreds of being Nazis and suddenly you think everyone is a Nazi, Lol.

I'd happily label AfD as an up and coming Nazi-like Party, Israel and Russia are essentially their own version of Nazi-Regimes right now so I would also be very suspicious of anyone who supports those two as well, if you're a European who supports Russia's actions then you're a traitor to Europe and defending fascist actions by a Nazi country, that makes you a fascist too.

But in Europe, despite my other disagreements with them, I can find comfort that a lot of right wing parties in Europe are anti-Russia still but there's a trend of far-right politicians appearing out of nowhere now, suddenly receiving a lot funding and attention and manipulating people with bullshit populism to gain voters, conveniently a lot of these politicians are pro-Russian too or at least, helpful to Russia's agenda.

And yeah, I've argued with the far-left on the Russia-Ukraine issue too, I've argued with so these apparent communists, there are a certain portion of the left who have a blind-spot when it comes to foreign policy and are totally naïve when it comes to Russia and too tunnel visioned about how bad "The West" has been and still is (which I don't disagree with) but it doesn't make Russia good.

The difference is though, I've encountered so few of these people, they're almost an irrelevant portion of left wingers, the far-right are far more prominent and I've ended up arguing with the far-right far more mostly because I don't agree with them on almost anything but even the Russia-Ukraine issue, the far-left's problem is naivity, the far-right's problem is they fucking support it, Lol.

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ST.Tachyon said:

Again, if you are not capable to understand analogy on how people on left call others nazi without actually saying it, then i cant help with that.
I joined this site to talk about games, why i started with political topics i dont have a clue when i know that talking about politics with people from US is like taking tooth out without anesthesia, just painful.

You are incapable of providing any examples at all because there are none. You're moaning about the Nazi Party and AfD being accused of being Nazis. It's probably for the best that you avoid political topics when you can't even be bothered to read peoples comments and instead make inflammatory accusations to try to cause some drama so take your own advice and stick to talking about games.

I'm from the UK, Lol. You've not actually spoken to anyone from the USA yet, Lmao. The user who accused AfD of being Nazis is from Germany. Actually, the majority of users in this thread who have posted aren't even from the USA. If I've counted right, based on what is displayed on users profiles.

  • USA - 3
  • Australia - 1
  • Europe - 12
  • Brazil - 1

*Moans About Imaginary Generalisation*

Follows Up With: "I know that talking about politics with people from US is like taking tooth out without anaesthesia, just painful."

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Chrkeller said:
yanis-bnth said:

You speak like Europe is a whole country. I’m French and France is not socialist. We just have a social advantage : healthcare for everyone. 

I spent most of my time in the United Kingdom.  While living abroad I spent time at France, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Italy, Germany, Austria and croatia.  

I stand by my original statement.  Europe made me appreciate and love the US more.  I came back more right then when I left.  

Sorry but you come across as quite ignorant. The UK is NOT socialist, until last year we had a Conservative government that was truly awful, incompetent and corrupt and worst of all still refuses to learn from its mistakes. Sadly you didn't see the UK in a good place and we have Labour again now but they are woefully incompetent too. I'm firmly left wing and would feel completely unrepresented if it wasn't for Corbyn plus the Green Party.

We are in sharp decline after 15 years of austerity and neglect, literally nothing works properly here anymore and the cost of living is a major problem. Not even the NHS can be described as socialist, it provides what any rational country provides when we need it, healthcare paid via taxes. Even most countries with insurance systems, ensure everyone has access. The US is the outlier, a shame you didn't realise that after travelling so much.

Mainland Europe is also not socialist, some countries are social democratic at best (basically where Britain was up till the 80s) and others are more traditionalist and conservative in nature especially in the east but again they try to ensure people don't go without the basics in terms of housing, healthcare, transport, some basic workers rights, welfare etc. But I guess with the current American administration, every other country in the world is a leftist hellhole with a senile nutter like Trump in charge, let alone Musk and Vance.

Maybe try not to generalise an entire continent with more twice the population of the USA. Europe is 40+ separate countries with vastly different cultures and heritage.



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Tober said:
OdinHades said:

Schwarz-rot ist die Antifa, Antifa bin auch ich!

The more people are shifting to the right and are voting the Nazi scum from AfD for whatever stupid reason, the more extreme I'm leaning to the left. Because we all know what happened the last time when nazis took over germany. I consider it my duty to fight back against exactly that.

I'm not German, I'm your friendly western neighbor. I don't know much about AfD, but why are they considered rightwing? The Nazi's where socialist (it's in the name). Are AfD hardcore capitalist?

Mate, open a book! Hitler went after and prosecuted the socialists, communist and trade unionists FIRST, even before the Jews or anyone else he didn't like. To ensure power, he went after the political opponents first. This is basic stuff! He even replaced the actual independent trade unions with a tightly controlled state one, the German Labour Front within months of taking power.

As for AFD, they are attracting actual Nazi apologists. 



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ST.Tachyon said:

Reading through this comment i realized something. To leftist people anyone who is on right side is rich, money hungry, nazi, while, for them, these on left side are nice, oppressed, humble people. I guess you people need to read a little more what Nazi mean. The way you people think have much much more in common to nazi view of the world then anything on right side of the thing.
Talking about brainwashed people.

I've owned a business that I've since sold and do just fine.  I know plenty of upper middle class/rich Americans that are Democrat.  Not every republican is a nazi, but there are literal nazis that do vote and strongly advocate not for republicans but for MAGA and Trump.  Laura Loomer even traveled with Trump for a while during the campaign trail. My parents have always been republicans but they are starting to get fed up with the Trump, Boebert, Margery Green's of the world and their over the top crazy non sense.  I wasn't political at all prior to Trump, it didn't matter to me what taxes were if they change a few percentage points.  My life didn't change regardless of who was in charge. 

I do have issues with the far left as well, as nothing is good enough for them.  They only strive for people that think only like them, and we have Trump because they were so easy to be persuaded that Harris wasn't the perfect candidate for them so they just didn't vote.

Trump meanwhile is just threats and blackmail.  Even before he was president, Trump got his way taking every small competitor to court until he drained them of all money that they had to go away.  If any republicans in his party say's anything even remotely negative or disagrees with one thing that Trump want's to pass, does he listen to the republican's opinion and see where they see things differently?  No he threatens to investigate them, threatens to primary them, threatens until they bend the knee and get rid of their opinion.  It's Trumps way or he will destroy you.  Marjorie Green is just batshit crazy, come on blaming everything on the left, including the weather.  Those pesky leftist are seeding the clouds trying to make it look like global warming is real...seriously how can anyone hear her speak and think wow this is who I want leading us?



SanAndreasX said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

I remember being told when I was 15 that I would get more right wing as I got older and earned more money.

15 years later, a Masters in ChemEng and making good money.. I get more and more left leaning every year. 15 year old me was a centrist compared to 30 year old me.

Which is wild as my politics are basically just, whilst governments are given power and money from the people, they have the responsibility to ensure everyone is healthy and educated and using the money given to them by the people to achieve this.

To expand on Healthy that means using revenue generated to provide healthcare, a clean environment with strong regulations on companies that can negatively affect health and ensuring everyone has the freedom to be who they want to be.

Other economic stuff is involved too such as the elimination of private property for use of generating revenue etc.
 

Same here. I have a family, make good money, and have only become harder left as I get older.  I want the taxes I already pay redirected towards health and education, and a hardened wall of separation between the church and the state.

I've always found it baffling that whilst people hate paying taxes, they seem to hate taxes being used to benefit theirs and everyone's lives even more?



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