I do generate more money than I cost and that is fair.  They provide stability and I'm not putting up the capital.  Those who put up the capital take on more risk, thus deserve more cookies.  

I believe everyone should have the same human rights, I believe the working class shouldn't struggle to survive while the elites get handout after handout. I am against indoctrinating children into the cult called religion, specifically Christianity. I don't fall back to a de facto standard position of fuck poor people and fuck immigrants any time something bad happens.

So obviously I lean left.

If you won’t give him a real response, will you give one to my last quote to you? The one that has data and good faith arguments?

I can look.  I didn't willfully avoid it.  Typically, from my perspective, I get questions for multiple people and it is hard to keep up on.  Let me look.  

So I am happy to address the two bolded points.

1) technology.  back in the 50s community was strong because people went outside and talked with each other.  Today everyone is behind a screen and I think the sense of community isn't as strong, which makes it a challenge to sell community as a selling point.  

2) Honestly, I am not against adjustments.  Personally, I think all income should be taxed as ordinary income.  My issue with the left is "tax the rich."  What is rich?  How much are we going to tax them?  Honestly it comes off as Trump like to me, make claim with zero details (which isn't a plan) and claim it the best.    

There's not an objective standard for fairness.  

Are they really taking on more risk, when the government is there to bail them out? Often giving them huge subsidies to start up their business?

Small business owners are definitely taking a risk, but past that? What risk are people like Bill Gates, Elon Musk taking? 

Yes, they are taking on more risk.  Senior stakeholders have to make way more difficult decisions than the average worker.  That is just a flat-out fact.  

Bill Gates was a college dropout and started a bunch of businesses, how was that not risky?  Elon putting his money into a bunch of start-ups, how is that not risk?  

Let us do a simple analogy...  I walk into a casino.  I don't put any money on the table...  but when it is time for a payout, I have my handout... why?  I didn't place a bet, someone else did.  

At the end of the day, nothing is free.  And anybody who thinks senior stakeholders have less hours, stress and responsibility are absolutely ****ing clueless.

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I mean Jesus dude.  Not only did Gates drop out of college, but he ran a business out of his garage...  how in the **** was that not risky?  Bill Gates is the very definition of risky.      

And thanks to Bill Gates 228,000 people have jobs...  

Are you unaware that Microsoft was a small start-up?  Bill Gates wasn't handed a plate of cookies...  he made the plate of cookies.  Which is EXACTLY my point.  

No one is saying anything is free.

But you seem to think that the universe just granted people money for working hard. 

I also think it's a bit hypocritical to talk about risk, when that suggests that there is some kind of element out of their control. Which you deride when people talk about things being out of their control when it comes to poorer people.  

Specifically talking about Bill Gates and Elon Musk today. If every single one of their businesses went down right now, do you honestly think they would be penniless and on the street? 

How about you answer my questions first?  You do a great job of avoiding questions and asking more from me.  How was Bill Gates not the definition of risky?  

It doesn't always work that way. 

Walmart hires something like 2 million, but they also displaced a lot of jobs and a lot of small businesses. 

I said now. 

Do you think that a billion dollar company has the same or bigger risk as one that's run out of a garage?  

Bill Gates also was never the definition of risky. He came from a relatively well off family. If MS didn't work out, he would've had options. He wouldn't have lost his house if it didn't work out.  He even said himself, he would have just gone back to Harvard if it didn't work out.