On July 8, 2022, Liliana prayed at Blessed Carlo’s tomb in Assisi, leaving a letter describing her plea. Six days earlier, on July 2, her daughter Valeria had fallen from her bicycle in Florence, where she was attending university. She had suffered severe head trauma, and required craniotomy surgery and the removal of the right occipital bone to reduce pressure on her brain, with what her doctors said was a very low chance of survival.

Liliana’s secretary began praying immediately to Blessed Carlo Acutis, and on July 8, Liliana made her pilgrimage to his tomb in Assisi. That same day, the hospital informed her that Valeria had begun to breath spontaneously. The next day, she began to move and partially regain her speech. On July 18, a CAT scan proved that her hemorrhage had disappeared, and on August 11, Valeria was moved to rehabilitation therapy. She made quick progress, and on September 2, Valeria and Liliana made another pilgrimage to Assisi to thank Blessed Carlo for his intercession.

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I actually found another religious website source which makes me even more convinced it's a desperate attempt to assign a miracle to a kid so they can use him as a PR prop for the "youth crowd" market. She actually took longer to recover than I had originally thought. 40 days minimum spent on recovery + 1 week in rehabilitation therapy so 47 days in total.

So I ask again, why is this obviously not instantly complete, nor impossible healing, counted as a miracle? And not just...Someone recovering from an injury which they specifically had surgery for to recover from said injury and in a timeframe which is in line with medical history and is very much possible. What am I going to find out next? She had memory problems for months after?

Was the prayer too low level and instead of healing her instantly was only capable of waking her up? Lol.

So... Basically you just admitted you don't have evidence that these "miracles" are actually "miracles" and can thus just be an elaborate scam to fool adherents to your cult?

This is not evidence. I would appreciate it if you stopped being disingenuous.
You have told so many lies in this thread, it's absolutely insane.

Correlation is not causation.

Op feels like a bad parody, how can you even open a topic to 'talk about the bad things that the big 3 have done' and at the same time refer to 'toxic actions' and 'open mindness'. 🤦‍♂️

Every single human being and therefore human organization has done both good and bad things, asking to talk only about the bad things is the very definition of toxicity and close-mindness.

The same athiest defnition of politeness, well-reasoning and open-mindness that brings people like Trump and Vance to power. Enjoy!

If you are agains the church as a whole, you are also against its good and bad as a whole, and no way around it.
These are from the LDS church alone (around 1% of global Christianity), in 2023 alone:

I have told zero lies whatsoever. I have given lots of evidence to back up my claims, and you have done absolutely nothing to debunk them. And no, snapping at me is not debunking.

You are the one who is lying here. Let's take a look at your lies:

Lie #1 - "Most firefighters do not believe in God" - you have provided zero evidence for this. I am sure there are plenty of Christian, Muslim, and Hindu firefighters out there. There is nothing about the firefighting profession that would make people disbelieve in God.

Lie #2 - " Homosexuality does offer some indirect advantages for evolution. - I.E. In a paternal capacity to increase the survivability of group dynamics." - No evidence for this

Lie #3 - "Abiogenies has been proven" - Abiogenesis is just a hypotheses, not even a theory. Urey Miller experiment is outdated by todays standards and does not provide that abiogenesis happened at all.

I am against the Church. Religion isn't required to do good deeds.

But Church's are a business, they have a "store" in every single town, city, suburb... In every single state, in every single country on Earth.

Here in Australia they "steal" 40~ billion dollars of the publics money... 100% tax free... And a large % of that stays in the Church and goes towards certain members or funneled overseas or into various interests (I.E Lobby groups who are against things like Same Sex marriage) rather than genuinely helping those in need.
To put that into perspective... Our jobseeker welfare safety net costs the Australian Taxpayer about $10~ billion a year... And is a payment of about $450 per week... The Church could literally provide the unemployed $1,800 per week and solve the unemployed/homeless issue literally overnight in this nation.

During the 2019 bushfires... All charities managed to accrue almost 300~ million dollars in donations nationally.. Salvation Army got $43 million, but only spent about 20~ million helping those in need at the time.

Red Cross got $210 million and only used 110~ million helping others.

Religious charities are a business... And in my opinion SHOULD be required to pay Tax.

False. You have conjured up a significant amount of lies in this thread with zero evidence.

Your "evidence" is just random websites which does not link to any peer-reviewed whitepapers which are a scientific and empirical source of information... In short, you just google and linked to whatever reinforces your already established confirmation bias.

In-fact, many of the links your provided don't even backup your claims.

You need to try harder and do better and stop lying.

Everyone in my station is Atheist, except for a single individual. 

I am not saying religious firefighters don't exist, but they are a minority... There is only so much "thoughts and prayers" you can provide when you are busy cutting a dead child out of a car.
So yes... There is lots that makes us firefighters disbelieve in God.

False. Already provided a rebuttal for this, do not see a need to rehash.

False. Already provided a rebuttal and evidence for this, no need to rehash.

Either way... Factually. There is more evidence for Abiogensis and Evolution than there is for your God. This is a blatant fact... And nothing you do will change that fact. Facts are facts are facts.

Best you can do is pray for the facts to go away, but we both know prayer does nothing.

Where is YOUR peer-reviewed white paper? You are asking me for something you yourself don't even have. 

Furthermore, most white papers tend to be anonymous and/or confidential, making them difficult to obtain unless you personally know the individuals involved in the research. Really crappy strategy asking me to obtain something that normally tends to be confidential.

I'm still not convinced that gay people can help with reproduction. I have met many gay people in real life, and they do NOTHING to help raise their nieces or nephews, or whatever else you believe they provide. If you were my brother, would you help me raise my children in the hopes our genetics both pass onto the next generation? Judging by the aggressive tone in the things you say, I think not.

Difference is, Zeus and Horus never conquered the entire world. Abrahamic God will. One day, Australia will have Shariah law. UK already has 100 Shariah courts. The numbers are promising for Abrahamic God.

Ah yes, and the Mormon cult could not possibly be misleading. 

Here is the problem with that. Sounds great that the church donates about 1.5 billion to charity doesn't it? But then you take into account the fact that the net worth of the Church is estimated at over 250 billion and growing not so much.

Most of the cult's money is in investments. Investments which thanks to our batshit laws, in the US at least, are non-taxable. In the past year where they spent 1.4 billion in aid they accumulated about 30B of wealth. I'm guessing they didn't pay anything in taxes. So, that's somewhere up to about 6 Billion dollars of money they saved on taxes. Wouldn't all have been realized right now, but they are doubtlessly getting more money in federal aid through tax breaks than they are spending to improve people's lives. 

So while I imagine many of the actual missionaries are going with the best of intentions, the people actually running the cult are laughing as they swim in a scrooge mcduck sized pool of money. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/1ai0rbw/lds_church_finances_2023_edition_265b_total/

And because they are a religious organization, we really have no way of looking at what they're actually doing, which is often just an excuse to try and convert people, or worse. 

If a charity operated like that, they'd lose their non-profit status real quick. That ratio of profit But the cult gets to go on making billions in profit with no consequences.

And is 1.4B really that much? I mean, of course, but lets consider that there are about 18million members of the church. That averages out to about 222 dollars per person. Some of those people are too young to have money, but even factor that in, it's an average of about 300 bucks per person that's actually going to charitable causes. That's painfully unimpressive. I literally donated more than that to charity yesterday (made a donation to an organization working to house homeless cats and dogs and promote no kill shelters). So, honestly, you could probably get rid of the mormon Church and the same amount would make its way to charitable causes, and you'd have millions more for education (church don't pay property taxes) and other important government services.

And by the way I refer to them as a cult, because that's what they are. Any organization that encourages your family to disown you if you try to leave is a cult. Look up some of the stories of apostates. 

As for Trump, I am officially over the bullshit narrative that people have voted for Trump because liberals or atheists or whoever are just so danged mean and if we only tried a little harder to appease them they wouldn't have. Some of the dumbest shit I've heard. Clearly they voted for Trump because they like people who are calm and respectful XD

What is more likely the case here is that the more religious people, who tend to vote republican, are more likely than the to fall for scams.

https://www.psypost.org/study-religious-fundamentalists-and-dogmatic-individuals-are-more-likely-to-believe-fake-news

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/02/20/why-so-many-latter-day-saints-fall/

Maybe teaching people that they should believe things without evidence can lead to them believing things without evidence. 

I haven't made the claim.

You don't know how this works do you?

*sigh* You don't understand the importance of a scientific whitepaper do you?

The source is irrelevant.

I suppose you also think that a scientific theory is just some kind of hypothesis or idea, right? 

I am a "gay people".
1) No one cares if you are/aren't convinced, that's not my job here, I am just making a mockery of your position for others to peruse.
2) You don't get to tell me what I provide to society.
3) I do more for others than you realize, which includes legal custody of my sisters child.
4) My tone is one that is challenging your religious bias, you are probably not used to being challenged, but guess what? Your voice isn't the only one that is allowed in a room.
5) Your religion has been absolutely EVIL towards "the gay people" for thousands of years and continues to this day.
6) You have shown complete and utter disrespect to everyone who doesn't follow your cult, that includes threats of damnation, standard bigotry and condemnation... And a complete judgement of others... And you are receiving it in return.
Don't like it? Then perhaps look inwards more often.

I would argue -all- religions are a "Cult".

A cult by it's very literal dictionary definition is:
"a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object."

And Christianity falls under that definition in a literal sense.

Not all Christians dislike gay people. Back in high school I stood up for a guy who was bullied for being gay (back in 2002, people were unfriendly towards gay people). I have always been friendly towards LGBTI people. But after speaking with you and noticing all the hostility, maybe I should reconsider how I feel.