Pemalite said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Op feels like a bad parody, how can you even open a topic to 'talk about the bad things that the big 3 have done' and at the same time refer to 'toxic actions' and 'open mindness'. 🤦♂ï¸Â Every single human being and therefore human organization has done both good and bad things, asking to talk only about the bad things is the very definition of toxicity and close-mindness. The same athiest defnition of politeness, well-reasoning and open-mindness that brings people like Trump and Vance to power. Enjoy!
If you are agains the church as a whole, you are also against its good and bad as a whole, and no way around it.
These are from the LDS church alone (around 1% of global Christianity), in 2023 alone:
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I am against the Church. Religion isn't required to do good deeds.
But Church's are a business, they have a "store" in every single town, city, suburb... In every single state, in every single country on Earth.
Here in Australia they "steal" 40~ billion dollars of the publics money... 100% tax free... And a large % of that stays in the Church and goes towards certain members or funneled overseas or into various interests (I.E Lobby groups who are against things like Same Sex marriage) rather than genuinely helping those in need.
To put that into perspective... Our jobseeker welfare safety net costs the Australian Taxpayer about $10~ billion a year... And is a payment of about $450 per week... The Church could literally provide the unemployed $1,800 per week and solve the unemployed/homeless issue literally overnight in this nation.
During the 2019 bushfires... All charities managed to accrue almost 300~ million dollars in donations nationally.. Salvation Army got $43 million, but only spent about 20~ million helping those in need at the time.
Red Cross got $210 million and only used 110~ million helping others.
Religious charities are a business... And in my opinion SHOULD be required to pay Tax.
Lavamelon said:
I have told zero lies whatsoever. I have given lots of evidence to back up my claims, and you have done absolutely nothing to debunk them. And no, snapping at me is not debunking. |
False. You have conjured up a significant amount of lies in this thread with zero evidence.
Your "evidence" is just random websites which does not link to any peer-reviewed whitepapers which are a scientific and empirical source of information... In short, you just google and linked to whatever reinforces your already established confirmation bias.
In-fact, many of the links your provided don't even backup your claims.
You need to try harder and do better and stop lying.
Lavamelon said:
Lie #1 - "Most firefighters do not believe in God" - you have provided zero evidence for this. I am sure there are plenty of Christian, Muslim, and Hindu firefighters out there. There is nothing about the firefighting profession that would make people disbelieve in God. |
Everyone in my station is Atheist, except for a single individual.
I am not saying religious firefighters don't exist, but they are a minority... There is only so much "thoughts and prayers" you can provide when you are busy cutting a dead child out of a car.
So yes... There is lots that makes us firefighters disbelieve in God.
Lavamelon said:
Lie #2 - "Â Homosexuality does offer some indirect advantages for evolution. - I.E. In a paternal capacity to increase the survivability of group dynamics." - No evidence for this |
False. Already provided a rebuttal for this, do not see a need to rehash.
Lavamelon said:
Lie #3 - "Abiogenies has been proven" - Abiogenesis is just a hypotheses, not even a theory. Urey Miller experiment is outdated by todays standards and does not provide that abiogenesis happened at all. |
False. Already provided a rebuttal and evidence for this, no need to rehash.
Either way... Factually. There is more evidence for Abiogensis and Evolution than there is for your God. This is a blatant fact... And nothing you do will change that fact. Facts are facts are facts.
Best you can do is pray for the facts to go away, but we both know prayer does nothing. |
Where is YOUR peer-reviewed white paper? You are asking me for something you yourself don't even have.
Furthermore, most white papers tend to be anonymous and/or confidential, making them difficult to obtain unless you personally know the individuals involved in the research. Really crappy strategy asking me to obtain something that normally tends to be confidential.
I'm still not convinced that gay people can help with reproduction. I have met many gay people in real life, and they do NOTHING to help raise their nieces or nephews, or whatever else you believe they provide. If you were my brother, would you help me raise my children in the hopes our genetics both pass onto the next generation? Judging by the aggressive tone in the things you say, I think not.
