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HoloDust said:
JRPGfan said:

If they make it overly demanding.... f*** em.
Just don't buy their games (so far its only like 1-2 games).

Developers should cater to the markets, esp on PC.

Well, oldest RTX 20x0 is almost 7 years old, it was bound to happen sooner or later - personally, I didn't see anything that screams "needs RTX" in my playthrough, but it's just how the game was made.

I got a amd 7800xt last year and honestly, if my pc cant play a game well I just skip it (I think its bit slower than a normal 4070? without ray-tracing).
My pc probably could run it just fine, but honestly no interest in the game.
That said, any game I cant run well, I would skip.
That is a dev problem. They can't expect us all to be rocking nvidia 5090's.



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HoloDust said:

9070XT is not yet out, wait a bit to see how it performs, it should have no problem beating 5070, but lets wait a bit.
What is certain is that 5070 it has 12GB of RAM and that there are already games where it chokes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptp5suRDdQQ

Linus seems to like it.

update:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzomNQaPFSk

Digital Foundry compared it to DLSS.

Alex says it beats the normal DLSS 4 CNN model, but loses to the DLSS4 Transformer model.
Still its pretty clear this is a huge step up, from the older FSR3 method AMD used before.
Machine learning really helped here.


Daniel Owen looks at FSR5 vs DLSS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZU0_ZVZtOA


Seems to come to the same conclusion.... at some things FSR4 is beating DLSS.... its a massive upgrade over FSR3.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 05 March 2025

JRPGfan said:
HoloDust said:

Well, oldest RTX 20x0 is almost 7 years old, it was bound to happen sooner or later - personally, I didn't see anything that screams "needs RTX" in my playthrough, but it's just how the game was made.

I got a amd 7800xt last year and honestly, if my pc cant play a game well I just skip it (I think its bit slower than a normal 4070? without ray-tracing).
My pc probably could run it just fine, but honestly no interest in the game.
That said, any game I cant run well, I would skip.
That is a dev problem. They can't expect us all to be rocking nvidia 5090's.

Oh, you're more than fine with 7800XT, 70+ fps @1440p...it's "path tracing" presets where AMD cards tank heavily...guess that's for 90x0 gen to fix finally.



Unless you're willing to spend waaaaaaay more than you need to, AMD combo is the best way to go. Nvidia has become too dependent on their AI tech that they've lost the way of horsepower becoming stagnant across generations, and less VRAM than there should be. I saw the writing on the wall with Nvidia.

I finished a brand new build recently with a Ryzen 7 9800X3D and 7800XT. I'm loving the performance so far and depending on 9070 series reviews, I may upgrade to the 9070XT at some point later this year or early next year. Also is able to take advantage of AMD's Smart Access Memory tech when you pair the CPU and GPU.



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G2ThaUNiT said:

Unless you're willing to spend waaaaaaay more than you need to, AMD combo is the best way to go. Nvidia has become too dependent on their AI tech that they've lost the way of horsepower becoming stagnant across generations, and less VRAM than there should be. I saw the writing on the wall with Nvidia.

I finished a brand new build recently with a Ryzen 7 9800X3D and 7800XT. I'm loving the performance so far and depending on 9070 series reviews, I may upgrade to the 9070XT at some point later this year or early next year. Also is able to take advantage of AMD's Smart Access Memory tech when you pair the CPU and GPU.

If you just care about pure raster then you're probably fine for a while. If you care about RT or upscaling though you should probably upgrade.

Hell, I was almost considering a 7900XTX since it's the same price as a 5070Ti here and usually performs better in pure raster, but the generational upgrade of RDNA 4 is truly generational. For AMD at least.

Edit: Also the 9070XT should be much cheaper than both anyway. Should be.

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I wouldn't buy a 5070, especially a non-Ti. Pretty much every reviewer called the card trash, and that's before the scarcity makes the prices go through the roof.

So yes, I'd choose the 9070XT or the 5070Ti if you want to stay with Nvidia if I were you.

As for the CPU, stay away from Intel right now, they're only useful in some productivity tasks but in gaming the new chips regressed against their predecessors, which instead have the possibility of dying suddenly.



G2ThaUNiT said:

Unless you're willing to spend waaaaaaay more than you need to, AMD combo is the best way to go. Nvidia has become too dependent on their AI tech that they've lost the way of horsepower becoming stagnant across generations, and less VRAM than there should be. I saw the writing on the wall with Nvidia.

I finished a brand new build recently with a Ryzen 7 9800X3D and 7800XT. I'm loving the performance so far and depending on 9070 series reviews, I may upgrade to the 9070XT at some point later this year or early next year. Also is able to take advantage of AMD's Smart Access Memory tech when you pair the CPU and GPU.

I went cheapo on the CPU.... its a Ryzen 7500f? I think its called (its only 6cores and 12threads....)
Runs well enough, I decided to spend the extra on the GPU instead. 

You got for the monster CPU :)

I'm abit bummed how much better FSR4 is, and its something only the 9xxx cards can run.



Now that the reviews are out, you can have a better idea.

Raster:

Ray Tracing:

https://www.techspot.com/review/2961-amd-radeon-9070-xt/

FSR4 is between DLSS 3 and DLSS 4 essentially.

Personally, I wouldn't touch 5070 with a 10ft pole as it's bad long term with the 12GB of Vram. If your budget is $600, then 9070XT no question. If you can go up to $750-$800 and find a 5070 Ti for around that price, 5070 Ti is faster all around. DLSS and Reflex also has a lot more game support than FSR4 and Anti-Lag 2. Nvidia traditionally also had longer driver support than Radeon but that shouldn't be the main determining factor. So it depends really.



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

JRPGfan said:
G2ThaUNiT said:

Unless you're willing to spend waaaaaaay more than you need to, AMD combo is the best way to go. Nvidia has become too dependent on their AI tech that they've lost the way of horsepower becoming stagnant across generations, and less VRAM than there should be. I saw the writing on the wall with Nvidia.

I finished a brand new build recently with a Ryzen 7 9800X3D and 7800XT. I'm loving the performance so far and depending on 9070 series reviews, I may upgrade to the 9070XT at some point later this year or early next year. Also is able to take advantage of AMD's Smart Access Memory tech when you pair the CPU and GPU.

I went cheapo on the CPU.... its a Ryzen 7500f? I think its called (its only 6cores and 12threads....)
Runs well enough, I decided to spend the extra on the GPU instead. 

You got for the monster CPU :)

I'm abit bummed how much better FSR4 is, and its something only the 9xxx cards can run.

Oh I definitely did! I haven't done a new build since 2017 and hadn't upgraded any components since 2018. So it was time. I like to keep my PCs for as long as possible and it's a lot easier to swap out the GPU than it is the CPU, so I figured I would spare no expense on the latter

I was bummed initially because I couldn't find a 9800X3D in stock on Amazon or Best Buy, and was going to get the 7800X3D instead for the same price. I wasn't going to mind since it was still going to be a noticeable upgrade. Then i went to Micro Center for some case fans and splitters, then I saw they had 9800X3D's in stock! So I was beyond stoked for that.

I'm honestly surprised that FSR4 is only on 9000 series cards though. AMD has been pretty good when it comes to back compat on their hardware. I wouldn't be surprised if eventually down the road, 7000 series cards get the feature.



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Now that the reviews are out, you can have a better idea.

Raster:

Ray Tracing:

Are these benchmarks with FSR4 enabled or purely from horsepower?



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