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Ryuu96 said:

I don't see the point in this thread, the Election Thread already specifically targets Harris vs Trump and like someone else said, nobody gives a fuck about Brain Worms JR, Chase Oliver, Cornel West, Randall Allen and Moscow Stein...They're all spoiler candidates who become even more irrelevant than they already are come election day.

So you think that this thread is redundant?

I noticed that the 2024 US Presidential Election thread was covering some of the same material as the US Politics thread and that no one was discussing policies. I was starting to have a conversation about personalities but they wouldn’t continue because they thought that belonged on a different/new thread.

Also have you even taken a look at their platforms? Even if you won’t be voting for them. No need to be so hostile.



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Shtinamin_ said:
Ryuu96 said:

I don't see the point in this thread, the Election Thread already specifically targets Harris vs Trump and like someone else said, nobody gives a fuck about Brain Worms JR, Chase Oliver, Cornel West, Randall Allen and Moscow Stein...They're all spoiler candidates who become even more irrelevant than they already are come election day.

So you think that this thread is redundant?

I noticed that the 2024 US Presidential Election thread was covering some of the same material as the US Politics thread and that no one was discussing policies. I was starting to have a conversation about personalities but they wouldn’t continue because they thought that belonged on a different/new thread.

Also have you even taken a look at their platforms? Even if you won’t be voting for them. No need to be so hostile.

I do believe this thread is redundant because we now have two OTs focused on the US Presidential Election and everything that could possibly be spoken about in this thread slots perfectly into the US Presidential Election thread, it's too much and will cause people to split their discussion or be confused about where to post.

As for the other candidates, it doesn't matter, they won't win, my point is that it's a waste of time and effort on your part, barely anyone cares about them, they have 0% chance of winning the election and they may get lets say 3% of the vote combined between them (probably not even that) and it will still be irrelevant because they won't win anything still.



Shtinamin_ said:
the-pi-guy said:

Does this thread cover something that isn't being covered in the US Presidential Election Thread?

I feel like this can be specifically to talk about policies, platforms and personalities of the candidates, since it feels like that isn't being talked about on US Politics [OT] or on the 2024 US Presidential Election thread. It seems that both those threads are actually just the same thread.

@Renamed wanted to discuss about Trump and Kamala, but he thought it didn't need to be said there which is understandable since the conversations on US Politics dont seem to be going that way. This is what he said

"I started to reply but in truth, this could easily fill up its own thread.  I was typing long rebuttals to everything but we really need a dedicated thread for discussing Trump.  

I will state that you appear to view Trump from the viewpoint that he is just like any other regular ole father.  That is an inaccurate lens to view with.  I'll discuss more if we get a thread (or resurrect an old Trump thread).  I appreciate you answering my questions and I feel I'm being unfair by not responding back to you in depth.  And I'll answer the same Q's regarding Harris there. "

So I made this so we can specifically discuss these two points. Platform/policy and personalities of the candidates. Since the other two threads are so wide spread out and seem like the exact same thread saying the exact same thing, one just has more posts from Ryuu96, than the other.

Awesome.  Glad you got the thread going.

Ryuu96 said:

I don't see the point in this thread, the Election Thread already specifically targets Harris vs Trump and like someone else said, nobody gives a fuck about Brain Worms JR, Chase Oliver, Cornel West, Randall Allen and Moscow Stein...They're all spoiler candidates who become even more irrelevant than they already are come election day.

There is validity for this thread.  The US Politics thread is more focused on day to day happenings, news, outside opinions and events (keep it going, it's a a damn good daily read).  The 2024 US Presidential thread is more random, quick bits, less focus.  This thread is more directly about policy.  It's more detail oriented and will lend to lengthy posts that would get lost, or go unread, in the other election thread.  



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Renamed said:

There is validity for this thread.  The US Politics thread is more focused on day to day happenings, news, outside opinions and events (keep it going, it's a a damn good daily read).  The 2024 US Presidential thread is more random, quick bits, less focus.  This thread is more directly about policy.  It's more detail oriented and will lend to lengthy posts that would get lost, or go unread, in the other election thread.  

You sure? The thread has been open for a few days now and there has literally been zero posts talking about platforms and policies.



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Renamed said:

There is validity for this thread.  The US Politics thread is more focused on day to day happenings, news, outside opinions and events (keep it going, it's a a damn good daily read).  The 2024 US Presidential thread is more random, quick bits, less focus.  This thread is more directly about policy.  It's more detail oriented and will lend to lengthy posts that would get lost, or go unread, in the other election thread.  

Is this thread more about policy? 

I think it's a common problem with political threads that they jump around. You start off with talking about Kamala's economic policies, and you move on to how Bush's economic policies were bad, and then Reagan's, and then you start talking about other issues with Reagan, and now you're 10 pages past talking about Kamala's economic policies. 

I don't think the Attempted Assassination on Trump thread has talked about anything with regards to the Attempted Assassination in like 15 pages; aside from a few random posts probably.  

It's kind of hard to keep conversation open enough to talk about related issues, but closed enough to stay on topic. 

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zorg1000 said:
Renamed said:

There is validity for this thread.  The US Politics thread is more focused on day to day happenings, news, outside opinions and events (keep it going, it's a a damn good daily read).  The 2024 US Presidential thread is more random, quick bits, less focus.  This thread is more directly about policy.  It's more detail oriented and will lend to lengthy posts that would get lost, or go unread, in the other election thread.  

You sure? The thread has been open for a few days now and there has literally been zero posts talking about platforms and policies.

It will gain activity.  I don't post on the weekends for one and I'm largely the one that advocated for this thread to better discuss issues with Shtinamin that would be overwhelming in the thread we were previously debating in.



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I was intending to have the US Presidential Election thread to be primarily for Policies and how the election was going. 

Shinti was wanting to talk about the personalities of Trump/Kamala, their "values", before he made this thread.



the-pi-guy said:
Renamed said:

There is validity for this thread.  The US Politics thread is more focused on day to day happenings, news, outside opinions and events (keep it going, it's a a damn good daily read).  The 2024 US Presidential thread is more random, quick bits, less focus.  This thread is more directly about policy.  It's more detail oriented and will lend to lengthy posts that would get lost, or go unread, in the other election thread.  

Is this thread more about policy? 

I think it's a common problem with political threads that they jump around. You start off with talking about Kamala's economic policies, and you move on to how Bush's economic policies were bad, and then Reagan's, and then you start talking about other issues with Reagan, and now you're 10 pages past talking about Kamala's economic policies. 

I don't think the Attempted Assassination on Trump thread has talked about anything with regards to the Attempted Assassination in like 15 pages; aside from a few random posts probably.  

It's kind of hard to keep conversation open enough to talk about related issues, but closed enough to stay on topic. 

Exactly, there is just too much overlap between “2024 presidential election” & “2024 presidential platforms, policies, personalities”. They will inevitably just morph into discussing the same things and it just fragments the politics discussion as some people will be here and some will be in the other thread.

As a declining forum that already struggles with activity, having a smaller number of active threads is probably better than having a high number of barely active threads.



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