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RolStoppable on 05 August 2024
firebush03 said:
Torillian said:

It is true that broadly the political parties are identical if you ignore the differences. But that's basically tautological and pointless to state. 

yep, that's why I asked for the original person to give me their stances so that I could discuss the differences. They said "No, you explain why they're the same" and I did just that. This was an inevitable consequence. If you want me to discuss the differences, I don't know them, so you're gonna have to give them to me.

At least you admit that you are speaking from ignorance. You should have included this in your very first post because that would have saved everyone, including yourself, a lot of time.



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Ryuu96 on 05 August 2024
PDF said:
Ryuu96 said:

I don't think Beshear would be a terrible pick, I'd think that would have to be someone who would damage Harris campaign, like JD Vance, Lol. I do think Beshear is the "safe" pick though in the sense that I don't believe he'd hurt Harris but I don't believe he'd aid her campaign much either, he obviously won't flip Kentucky and I reckon would have a very minor effect outside of Kentucky. Beshear is essentially the "do no harm" idea when picking a VP, Beshear of all the candidates has the least baggage so he'll be fine, though I do also agree he's a pretty bland orator.

I'd want Kelly or Walz. But if you need Shapiro for Pennsylvania...Then it can't really be anyone else can it? PA is too important to the election. If you can't be sure you can win it without Shapiro then I don't see it being anyone else. If you don't need Shapiro to win PA then my brain says Kelly but my heart says Walz...I think Kelly still has the best national appeal but Walz is so damn charming, Lol.

That's fair.

I also fully agree with the rest.

It looks like it is going to be Shapiro or Walz. I fully believe Shapiro is the best choice between the two but Walz is so damn likeable. I won't be upset if he is chosen.

I really thought Kelly would make the "final" stage, I wonder what made her drop him, I'd love to be a fly on the wall

I wouldn't have been upset at any of them. Just thought Kelly, Walz and Shapiro were the strongest. Beshear is fine and Pete is awesome but wouldn't do much for Harris. Tbh, I trust Harris has done her homework no matter who she picks, if it's Walz then I guess she has good reason to believe they can win PA without Shapiro. If she picks Shapiro then it's probably because they need him for PA.



zorg1000 on 05 August 2024
firebush03 said:
zorg1000 said:

See! You’re doing it again, someone asked for your opinion on 4 topics and you chose to single out one specific topic.

It always comes back to Gaza with you, is that the one and only issue you care about? Or does it just happen to be the only issue that “both sides are the same or marginally different” can be considered somewhat true?

respectfully, (i) Do you see the amount of detail I'm putting into each response? I can't be firing these out once every ten minutes. These take a while, please be patient. I actually just posted one discussing education, but gave up midway bc it's taking a little bit longer than I want it to. (ii) I'm sorry about my past behavior. Can you please forgive me, and move on from this quoting of all my comments?

Respectfully, you don’t actually put much detail in your posts, you write a lot of words that have very little substance. Your education post is a prime example of that, it’s more of a ramble than anything.



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Ryuu96 on 05 August 2024

Imagine how wild the conspiracy theories would have been if we had Mark Kelly VP?

"IT'S NOT MARK KELLY! IT'S HIS TWIN! SCOTT KELLY! WHERE'S THE REAL MARK KELLY? THEY'VE KILLED HIM!"

We were robbed of some more MAGA conspiracy theories.

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firebush03 on 05 August 2024
zorg1000 said:
firebush03 said:

respectfully, (i) Do you see the amount of detail I'm putting into each response? I can't be firing these out once every ten minutes. These take a while, please be patient. I actually just posted one discussing education, but gave up midway bc it's taking a little bit longer than I want it to. (ii) I'm sorry about my past behavior. Can you please forgive me, and move on from this quoting of all my comments?

Respectfully, you don’t actually put much detail in your posts, you write a lot of words that have very little substance. Your education post is a prime example of that, it’s more of a ramble than anything.

Let me repeat my question: Can you please forgive me? I’m very sorry about my past behavior. I was acting way out of line back then, and I have every intention to back all posts going forward with better sources and evidence (so as to avoid the trope of “I’m short on time and can’t respond”), and to be far less disrespectful. You can say that my posts are “lacking quality” now, but I have no intention on being mean-spirited nor hateful going forward.



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firebush03 on 05 August 2024

dupe ignore. (however, Zorg “agreeing” with my previous comment makes me feel a little bit better lol. This is expected response from y’all, I hope you know I am very sorry about past behavior...)

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Ryuu96 on 05 August 2024
firebush03 said:
RolStoppable said:

At least you admit that you are speaking from ignorance. You should have included this in your very first post because that would have saved everyone, including yourself, a lot of time.

bub, VGChartz has forum guidelines. I have since reported your remark (though I doubt anything will happen). You did not respond, and you are flaming. Clear violation.

I see nothing mod worthy there, you all but confirmed you're speaking from ignorance (that isn't an offensive accusation in this context), a lack of knowledge or information about something. You straight said that you asked the original person to give you the stances of the two politicians which you are claiming to be the same, you said you don't know their differences and require others to give them to you, so why did you claim that they are the same when you have not done prior research for yourself on why they are the same?

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firebush03 on 05 August 2024
Ryuu96 said:
firebush03 said:

bub, VGChartz has forum guidelines. I have since reported your remark (though I doubt anything will happen). You did not respond, and you are flaming. Clear violation.

I see nothing mod worthy there, you all but confirmed you're speaking from ignorance (that isn't an offensive accusation or word), a lack of knowledge or information about something. You straight said that you asked the original person to give you the stances of the two politicians which you are claiming to be the same, you said you don't know their differences and require others to give them to you, so why did you claim that they are the same when you have not done prior research for yourself on why they are the same?

yep, changed that post cuz I realized it was a bad point lol.



Ryuu96 on 05 August 2024

How can you not love him, a face of pure joy and love.

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Ryuu96 on 05 August 2024

It's going to be Shapiro.

Pi, where's the damn poll?!