Bethesda is not over-rated. They fucked up Oblivion pretty badly, I still enjoyed it but it had horrible MASSIVE flaws (such as making all creatures level up with you, sure I'm the savior of the world but a guard can still kick my arse). However their games before that were good enough that I think they are still a very good dev.

R* is over-rated. Their name exists purely on GTA fame and I personally think that game was more fun in 2D.

Rare is over-rated. They are still existing purely on the fact that they were good, not that they are good.

There are people who still like Britany Spears too.  It's great that you like Midnight Club.  Doesn't make them any less overrated though. ^_^

I don't really know how you want me to expand on these but i will.

I have played most of the Zelda's, the one on the DS is the one i got farthest in, it started off as some boy and some girl, i can't really remember anymore of a story after that. But in each zelda i have played or seen people play its all the same, you need to go off and save something and go and meet odd looking things and play boring dungeons.

SMG, has some of the worst controls and camera i have ever seen in a video game. The camera would never go to what i wanted to see and the controls were just bad, and made even worse by the camera that never went to what i wanted to do. This caused me to fall off ledge after ledge as i tried to get mario where i wanted him to go. He never jumped where i wanted him to go and he never killed who i wanted him to kill. The whole game made it almost impossible to jump on anyone so you had to spin the wii-mote like crazy.

Metroid games are just boring, i never beat any of the ones i played due to boredom, and the colous in the games are just bad, each level looks bad and appears to be painted by a kid. I played a couple of them and put 1-3 hours into them before turning them off.

HL1, i played a long time ago and can't remember all the details but i remember being bored with it, i can't really remember much of a story either. HL2 and the episodes, were full of boring parts and puzzles that did nothing for the game, all they did was extend boring parts of the game. The was also no story, you walk from place to place metting people who go "oh my god its gordon freeman" then they ask you do do some boring crap and the you do it all over again with different people. The games also had the worst driving of any game i have ever played, there was no point to those parts, but to extend the game. If they took out all the crap they never needed, it would of been one of the shortest games ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=devEDGtgZ64

This video shows HL1 and HL2, but the episodes are just like it, so extend the video another 30seconds and you have the entire game.

people try to copy Rockstar, R* are innovators the take chances unlike some other devs who repeatedly put out the same crap, like how many times can u save the princess or save the world from Nazi Germany, rockstar is putting out fresh ideas and they always sell well. other devs are scared to try and pull games like R* has. R* is an example to be looked up to. R* isn't scared to be publicly bashed they take on the ppl who are trying to ruin your games like Jack T ( can say his name or i will get sick) so by saying all that how can u possibly call R* overrated by those standards everyone is overrated

and u might call them overrated but there is more ppl that say they are the best and that isn't the best argument

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I just KNEW you were going to use that video to defend your statement.

I would have done the same if i were in your shoes, but i pretty much disagree with everything you said in the previous posts, oh wells, opinions are opinions.

 I can call them over-rated because they are a developer who exists on one game title only (GTA) and attention whore like no other company. I don't know of any other company that goes out of their way to create violent games just so that they can be controversial (Manhunt 2 anyone?). 

Then everyone claims they invented the sandbox genre which is blatantly untrue, they may have revived it and translated it but it certainly existed before them.

They are not the gods of game developers that a lot of people make them out to be, many many developers make better games more consistently than R* does, Nintendo, Valve and Blizzard are all examples. 

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methinks griffin wants an argument
his post had bait written all over it, citing the best points of those games as their weaknesses
if he really feels what he said, then i guess youre right, he likes straightforward games

Definitely. I'm not saying that Rockstar is the greatest developer ever, but their GTA series is pretty spectacular.

Personally, I've never heard them mentioned in the same breath as Blizzard, Valve, or Nintendo, but if people are indeed doing that, I would have to say that yes, they are overrated by some. They don't deserve that kind of recognition compared to those three developers that consistently put together amazing games across several franchises.