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Skeeuk said:

I don't frequent on here much now but you have to summarise things and leave links rather than leave entire pages of texts and images. It's too much to soft through.

It's shocking what's happening but they are a terror state after all, The USS Liberty incident proves that

There's just so much happening right now at a rapid pace. Thanks to AI targeting there are multiple massacres and war crimes daily in half a dozen territories.

I can leave out the (rather pointless) condemnation stuff which has as much effect as "hearts and prayers" anyway.


I try to sort the news on topic, which is now atrocities in Lebanon, Gaza, West Bank, Other (Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Iran) and then Politics, Protests. While shortening and removing duplicate info.

What I don't want to do is turn it into just a bunch of numbers. I can add a daily recap however, short bulleted list. then you can browse back or jump to the next bulleted list.



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Doctors without Borders: People are fleeing Lebanon ‘with nothing’

Itta Helland-Hansen, project coordinator at Doctors Without Borders (MSF), says more than one million people in Lebanon have had to flee without any possessions.

“That means they lack clothing and other basic items, such as chronic medication, or prescriptions … [and are] in need of mattresses, blankets, hygiene items, and of course, food and water,” she told Al Jazeera from Beirut.

Helland-Hansen warned that some people had moved four times now and that in addition to any physical ailments, many were struggling with mental health issues.

“This has a lasting impact, also mentally or psychologically,” she said. “We hear people in the shelters mentioning that, for instance, just the sound of drones – which I can hear right now outside the window here as well – it’s like a chronic stressor.”

She said her group, MSF, had carried out “thousands of consultations in all the areas or in many areas of the country over the last weeks, along with also mental health care and this distribution of items”. This was done despite the fact that the Lebanese authorities had been greatly impacted in their already limited ability to help.

“We continue to do assessments to see how it’s going in different


Lebanon says 41 killed in Israeli attacks on Monday

It said that 41 people were killed and 124 wounded. The death toll included 21 people who were killed in an air attack that hit an apartment building in Aitou village, in the Christian-majority Zgharta district, in northern Lebanon – the first time the area came under attack during the war.

The newest figures bring the overall death toll since Israel launched an intense air campaign in Lebanon on September 23 to 1,356.


Lebanese Red Cross volunteers and Civil Defence workers remove the remains of killed people from the rubble of a destroyed building at the site of Monday’s Israeli air strike in Aitou, north Lebanon, on Tuesday, October 15


UN agencies say aid distribution under way in Lebanon

The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) says on X that “humanitarian aid is on the move” in Lebanon.

Israel’s intense bombardment of the country has left more than one million people displaced, with many fleeing to the capital, Beirut, and some across the border to Syria.

“Despite airstrikes in southern Lebanon, UNHCR, UN agencies and The Sheild Association are delivering relief to hard-to-reach areas in Qlayaa, Marjayoun”, the agency’s post says, adding that trucks full of mattresses, blankets, solar lanterns and other essential supplies were moving across the area.

The United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) said in a separate X post that it is “working hard behind the scenes to coordinate the safe passage of essential humanitarian aid to civilians in south Lebanon, including today’s relief convoy”.

UNIFIL, the UN’s peacekeeping mission in Lebanon, has been subject to multiple Israeli attacks in the last week, as the Israeli army seeks to move more troops into Lebanon.


Around 3,000 French citizens have left Lebanon since escalation: French FM

French Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot told the French parliament’s foreign affairs committee that no decision had been taken regarding evacuations from Lebanon. Overall, there were about 24,000 French citizens in Lebanon.


Israel clearing mines on border of occupied Golan Heights: Report

In a sign Israel may expand its ground operations against Hezbollah while bolstering its own defences, its troops have cleared landmines and established new barriers on the frontier between the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights and a demilitarised strip bordering Syria, security sources and analysts said told Reuters news agency.

The move suggests Israel may seek to strike Hezbollah for the first time from further east along Lebanon’s border, at the same time creating a secure area from which it can freely reconnoitre the armed group and prevent infiltration, Reuters’ sources said.

It's nice they're cleaning up their mess, but they should really stop occupying the Golan Heights and give it back to Syria.



Ten killed, 15 wounded in Israeli air strike in southern Lebanon: Report

Lebanon’s National News Agency reports that the strikes hit the town of Qana, which is 10 kilometres (6 miles) southeast of Tyre.


Air strikes continue across Lebanon

In the past three hours, there have been more than 12 [Israeli] air strikes in different areas in South Lebanon and the Bekaa Valley [in eastern Lebanon].

The latest air strikes were in Qana, a town close to Tyre. There were four air strikes there, and they targeted a health centre. For now, we don’t have any reports of casualties, but from the pictures we’re seeing, it’s not looking good.

Also in other areas, such as Nabatieh [a large city in south Lebanon], there was an air strike, too.

These attacks continue, just like every day, in several areas around Lebanon at the moment. The Israeli army has issued in the past few hours a statement warning that they might be hitting ambulances because they’re accusing Hezbollah of using them. It seems they’re hitting everything, regardless of who’s using or not using it.


People inspect the damage at the site of an Israeli airstrike in the southern Lebanese village of Kfar Jaouz on Monday


Three children among killed in Israeli strike on Lebanon

The Lebanese Ministry of Public Health says in a statement that five people were killed, including three children, when Israeli warplanes bombed the town of Riyaq, in the Bekaa Valley in eastern Lebanon. At least 16 people were wounded in the strike, the ministry added.


Hezbollah says it destroyed Israeli tanks, bulldozers and inflicted casualties in southern Lebanon

Hezbollah says that its fighters destroyed three bulldozers and two tanks belonging to the Israeli army on the outskirts of Ramyah, southern Lebanon, resulting in casualties.

In a statement, the Lebanese group said its fighters targeted a “Merkava tank while attempting to advance to the outskirts of Ramyah with a guided missile, which resulted in its burning and casualties among its crew”.

They also targeted “three bulldozers and another Merkava tank on the outskirts of Ramyah with guided missiles, leading to their destruction and casualties among those inside”; according to another statement.

Hezbollah reported in a third statement that its fighters targeted Israeli forces near the Ramyah village with artillery shells.


Almost 100 projectiles launched by Hezbollah today: Israeli military

In its latest war update, the Israeli military claims that Hezbollah fired approximately 95 projectiles from Lebanon into Israel today.



UK announces new sanctions against Israeli settlers

Britain has announced new sanctions against three “illegal settler outposts” and four groups accused of committing violence against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank.

Foreign Secretary David Lammy said that Israeli government “inaction … has allowed an environment of impunity to flourish where settler violence has been allowed to increase unchecked”.

The sanctions are the third imposed by London targeting those involved in settler violence since February. The organisations listed are the religious school Od Yosef Chai Yeshiva, the Hashomer Yosh NGO, the charity Torat Lechima and Amana, a construction company.

The settlements are the Tirzah Valley Farm Outpost, Meitarim Outpost, and Shuvi Eretz Outpost.

UK’s foreign secretary comments on Israeli settler violence ‘hugely symbolic'

The UK is sanctioning four organisations that promote settler expansion and that are accused of promoting settler violence. They can no longer raise funds in the UK or hold public events. Canada has taken similar steps in the past few months.

But when you consider the fact that the Israeli government’s programme considers Israeli settlement expansion to have high national value and is investing millions of dollars in expanding settlements, which are illegal under international law, you begin to wonder: What does [UK Foreign Secretary] David Lammy mean when he’s accusing the Israeli government of inaction?

US hands out sanctions to pro-Palestinian group Samidoun

The United States has imposed sanctions on what it says is a key international fundraiser for the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).

The US Treasury Department, in an action taken with Canada, accused the Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network of being “a sham charity that serves as an international fundraiser” for the PFLP.

Founded by George Habash in 1967, the PFLP is a secular Marxist-Leninist political group and part of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). It is the second-largest group in the PLO after Fatah.

The group’s armed wing, the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades, has fought Israel in Gaza alongside Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ). It is designated a “terrorist organisation” by several Western countries, including the US. The US Treasury said the PFLP uses Samidoun to fundraise in Europe and North America.


US tells Israel to improve Gaza’s humanitarian situation or risk legal action: Report

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin have told Israel it must take steps in the next month to improve the humanitarian situation in Gaza to avoid legal action involving US military aid, according to news reports and sources.

“We are writing now to underscore the US government’s deep concern over the deteriorating humanitarian situation in Gaza, and seek urgent and sustained actions by your government this month to reverse this trajectory,” they wrote in an October 13 letter to their Israeli counterparts, posted by an Axios reporter on X on Tuesday.

A reporter for Israeli News 12 first reported the contents of the letter on X. Two sources familiar with the matter confirmed the letter’s veracity to Reuters news agency.

The US Department of State and Pentagon did not immediately respond to Reuters requests for comment on the letter. Representatives for Israel’s government also could not be immediately reached for comment.


Remember, before Oct 7 with Gaza still having agriculture etc, avg 500 trucks went in daily, 15,000 monthly.
To halt the famine, at least 800 trucks daily are needed to get back to sustainable levels.

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Israel’s Supreme Court wants state to explain lack of evacuation plan in Gaza: Report

The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reports that the Supreme Court has ordered the state to explain why it hasn’t established an “orderly plan” to oversee the evacuation of sick and wounded Palestinians in Gaza for treatment in a third country.

The newspaper reported that three judges ordered the state to respond by November 11.

The judges wrote that Israel “must enable the effective implementation” of a policy that “will be adequate to the medical needs in those cases where there is no security prevention”.


A man wounded in an Israeli strike on tents sheltering displaced people is helped during the funeral of Palestinians killed in the strike at Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital in Deir el-Balah in the central Gaza Strip on October 14


Parliamentarians join walkout against Israel at IPU meeting in Geneva

Members of parliament, including representatives from the Grand National Assembly of Turkey, have staged a walkout against Israeli officials during the 149th General Assembly of the Inter-Parliamentary Union (IPU) in Geneva, Switzerland.

The delegation of Palestine had submitted an emergency item to the IPU assembly titled, “Enforcing UN General Assembly resolution ES-10/24 and ensuring accountability”.

The resolution issued in September formally demanded an end to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory within 12 months.

Tensions rose when an Israeli official took the floor to speak during the session, chaired by IPU President Tulia Ackson. In response, representatives from many countries banged their tables in protest and then walked out of the assembly hall.

After the Israeli official’s speech, the protesting representatives returned to the hall to resume the session.



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Two Palestinians killed in Israeli drone strike north of Gaza City

Our colleagues at Al Jazeera Arabic report that two people have been killed in an Israeli drone strike on Ahmed Yassin Street, in the north of Gaza City.


Assault on northern Gaza has escalated to ‘horrifying level of atrocity’, say doctors

A group of doctors and NGOs claims northern Gaza is being “wiped off the map” as a result of Israel’s ongoing intensified assault, now in its 11th day.

The assault has escalated to a “horrifying level of atrocity”, says an open letter written by Dr Mohammed Salha, acting director of al-Awda Hospital in the Jabalia refugee camp, one of the areas hardest hit by Isreal’s siege.

“The Israeli military has contacted us more than once to evacuate the hospital,” he said.

“[All] the departments are full of wounded people and we are discharging even the wounded who have minor or moderate injuries, because we do not have [enough] beds for them.”

“We demand an immediate ceasefire and an end to Israel’s illegal occupation,” he said.

The letter is signed by more than two dozen organisations including ActionAid, Plan International Jordan and War on Want.


Ten members of displaced family killed in Gaza

Ten members of the Abu Taamiya family were killed by an Israeli air strike in the early hours of Tuesday morning. Israeli air strikes have intensified across Gaza in recent days.


Gazan reporter may be paralyzed after being shot by Israeli forces, doctor says


Fadi Wael Abdel Karim Al-Wahidi, seen in a hospital bed, is a Palestinian photojournalist who was shot while covering an Israeli incursion and could be paralyzed, his doctor at Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital said. His colleague, Anas Al-Sharif, warned that Al-Wahidi is unable to receive adequate medical treatment because they are “trapped in northern Gaza under siege.”

A 24-year-old Palestinian reporter who spoke to CNN in May about documenting the horrors of the war in Gaza could now be paralyzed, according to his doctor, after he was fired on last week while covering the Israeli incursion in northern Gaza.


Fadi Wael Abdel Karim Al-Wahidi, a photojournalist working for Al Jazeera, was shot in the neck near the Jabalya refugee camp on October 9, the network said, accusing the Israeli military of shooting at a group of reporters.

Dr. Fadel Naim, a medic at Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza City, told CNN Friday that Al-Wahidi’s condition was “very serious.” “A piece of shrapnel struck his neck, severing the veins there,” Naim said.

Naim said there were not enough supplies in northern Gaza to stabilize Al-Wahidi, who needs surgery. Israel’s campaign has caused severe drug shortages in the besieged strip. “He will likely suffer from paraplegia,” the doctor added.

The Israeli military told CNN it was “not aware of IDF (Israel Defense Forces) troops in the specified area” at that time.


Israel has ‘free hand’ in West Bank with all eyes on Gaza, and Lebanon

Beit Furik is one of multiple hot spots the Israeli army continuously targets. The north of the occupied West Bank, in general, has been hit by daily raids.

Today, we saw some confrontations between the Israeli army and some armed fighters in that area. Two injuries were confirmed by the Palestinian Red Crescent among civilians, including a child.

We’ve seen an increase in those attacks by the Israeli army in the occupied West Bank, including assassinations in Jenin, Tulkarem and Nablus.

While the world’s attention is focused on Lebanon and Gaza, many observers feel that Israel believes it has a free hand to do as it wants in the occupied West Bank, to keep things under wraps.



Israeli hits multiple buildings in Lebanon’s Qana

A healthcare centre was hit and rescue workers are digging through the rubble at the moment. We know the death count is about 10 people – but that number could well go up – and around 15 people injured. There are also fires breaking out in some of those homes, so it’s very much an active scene at the moment.

We do know that there have been many warnings against Israel hitting healthcare workers. Dozens of them have died since the beginning of this conflict.

The World Health Organization also warned just a couple of weeks ago that Israel is continuously hitting not only healthcare centres, but they seem to be targeting healthcare workers, and this is affecting the mass trauma management that’s needed in these areas of conflict, especially in the South of Lebanon and in the Bekaa Valley.

The other thing you need to know about Qana is it is strategically and symbolically important. There was a massacre there in 1996: Israeli shelling killed at least 116 people, many of whom were sheltering there away from fighting. Again, in 2006, more shelling killed more than 50 people.

Two Hezbollah drones breach Israeli airspace

Two drones were identified crossing from Lebanon into Israel following sirens that sounded in the Upper Galilee, the Israeli military said in a statement, adding that no injuries were reported.

Fallen targets were identified in the area, the army said, which did not say that the drones had been intercepted by air defences.

41 killed in Lebanon as total number of Israeli attacks passes 10,000, Lebanese authorities say


Vehicles lie among the ruins of a house that was destroyed by an Israeli airstrike in Aitou, Lebanon, on Tuesday.

At least 41 people have been killed and 124 injured by Israeli attacks in Lebanon over the past day, Lebanese authorities said Tuesday, as a government report said the total number of attacks on the country had passed 10,000.

There were 146 Israeli attacks on Lebanon in the past 24 hours alone, according to a report released Tuesday by the Lebanese government’s emergency committee, which said there had been a total of 10,012 raids since the onset of “Israeli aggression.” It did not specify the date it was referring to for the onset of attacks.

Here’s more details in the report from Dr. Nasser Yassin, the committee’s coordinator and the environment minister:

  • The 146 strikes primarily targeted the southern regions and Nabatiyeh.
  • Of the 1,067 centers established to shelter displaced people, 881 were now at full capacity. (The number of displaced people has reached 188,652, according to the National Operations Room.)
  • Lebanese authorities recorded 329,386 Syrian citizens and 126,842 Lebanese citizens crossing from Lebanon into Syrian territory between September 23 and October 15.
  • About 77% of public schools are unable to operate, either because they are serving as shelters or are in areas directly affected by the violence.
  • The directly affected areas include 40% of public technical education and vocational training students, 57% of Lebanese university students and 32% of private higher education institutions.
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Qatar PM will press for ceasefire as events in Gaza ‘cannot be accepted by any honest person’

Qatar’s prime minister says his country will continue to press for a ceasefire, despite repeated setbacks imposed by the main parties to the conflict.

Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman bin Jassim Al Thani told Qatar Television the country had been continuing its efforts to secure a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel, which also involved nations such as the US and Egypt.

“We will not be exhausted as long as there is an expectation of results. We succeeded last November through a liberation and ceasefire deal and unfortunately, this was not completed,” he said. “What is happening in Gaza cannot be accepted by any honest person.”


US senator urges Biden not to send weapons to Israel

Bernie Sanders has urged President Joe Biden on Tuesday not to send weapons to Israel for its war on the Gaza. “When Congress returns, I will move Joint Resolutions of Disapproval to block offensive arms sales to Israel,” he wrote on X.

“But President Biden should act now: Israel is clearly violating U.S. and international law, using starvation as a tool of its all-out war against the Palestinian people,” he said.

His remarks came after a letter, leaked Tuesday, warned Israel to improve the humanitarian situation in Gaza in the next 30 days or risk a US arms embargo. US officials confirmed that Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin co-signed a letter that expressed concern about the humanitarian conditions in Gaza.

Sanders introduced legislation last month to block the sale of more than $20bn in US arms sales to Israel, saying that the export of the weapons would violate the criteria laid out in the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 and the Arms Export Control Act (AECA).

The Senate will vote on the Joint Resolutions of Disapproval (JRD) when it reconvenes in November.


Israel reviewing letter from US urging improvement in Gaza humanitarian situation

An Israeli official in Washington, who remained anonymous, was quoted by the Reuters news agency as saying the letter is under review by the Israeli government.

“Israel takes this matter seriously and intends to address the concerns raised in this letter with our American counterparts,” the Israeli official said.

The US and Israel have been at odds frequently over the course of this yearlong conflict over the amount and type of aid allowed into Gaza.



High-profile politicians, activists at large pro-Palestinian protests in Paris

Pro-Palestinian demonstrators have gathered at the Place de la Republique in Paris, France, to protest against Israel’s war on Gaza.

Protesters held banners with messages such as “Toys in Gaza are losing their children” and “Free Palestinian political prisoners” while they chanted, “Free Palestine”.

Notable figures in attendance included Marine Tondelier, the leader of the Green Party (EELV), Thomas Portes, a far-left La France Insoumise (LFI) Member of Parliament and Salah Hamouri, a Palestinian-French lawyer and author of The Prisoner of Jerusalem.

Tondelier voiced deep frustration and sorrow about the continued violence in Gaza in her speech.

“This helplessness is terrible because we have been protesting for a year and this atrocity has been going on for a year,” said Tondelier, accusing world leaders of turning a blind eye to the actions of the Israeli military.

She specifically criticised French President Emmanuel Macron for what she described as his lack of meaningful action.


A demonstrator wearing a keffiyeh waves the Palestinian flag during a protest demanding an end to the one-year-long Israeli attacks on Gaza, on October 15

UN Humanitarian Coordinator for Gaza Sigrid Kaag visits south, central Strip


The UN senior humanitarian and reconstruction coordinator for Gaza, Sigrid Kaag, visits southern and central Gaza on Monday


The UN official conducts inspections and holds talks with Palestinian residents in Khan Younis and Deir el-Balah.



Main points for October 15th

  • Five people, including three children, have been killed after Israeli warplanes bombed the town of Riyaq in the Bekaa Valley in eastern Lebanon.
  • At least 10 people have been killed in Israeli strikes on the town of Qana in southern Lebanon.
  • At least 41 people have been killed and 124 injured by Israeli attacks in Lebanon over the past day.
  • US Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin have told Israel it must take steps in the next month to improve the humanitarian situation in Gaza to avoid legal action involving US military aid.
  • The UK has announced new sanctions against three “illegal settler outposts” and four groups accused of committing violence against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank.
  • Israel’s siege of the north of the Gaza Strip continues with the Israeli army planting explosive-filled barrels to destroy homes.
  • Ten members of the Abu Taamiya family were among 61 people killed in Israeli attacks across the Gaza Strip on Tuesday.
  • More than 25 percent of Lebanon is now under Israeli military evacuation orders, the UN High Commissioner for Refugees says.
  • The acting director of al-Awda Hospital in the Jabalia refugee camp warned Israel’s assault on the north of the Gaza Strip has escalated to a “horrifying level of atrocity”.
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