I'm hearing rumors Iran's missile strike on Israel airbase took out over 20 F-35 jets. That's like watching $2.18 billion USD disappear in a firework show. At $109 million per jet, you'd think they'd come with a better warranty. But hey, it could just be one of those wild internet rumors like the time people thought you could charge your iPhone in the microwave.
| deskpro2k3 said: I'm hearing rumors Iran's missile strike on Israel airbase took out over 20 F-35 jets. That's like watching $2.18 billion USD disappear in a firework show. At $109 million per jet, you'd think they'd come with a better warranty. But hey, it could just be one of those wild internet rumors like the time people thought you could charge your iPhone in the microwave. |
That's the rumors I just talked about in the last post. Coming from the Hindustan Times.
They claim the empty parking spots suggest planes were hit / destroyed. There's no debris and flight operations have been ongoing. Of course planes are 'missing', they're on bombing runs...
Then they go on to claim some missiles hit near nuclear facilities according to the WSJ.
However the last time WSJ reported anything about missiles hitting near nuclear facilities was on Apr 19 when Israel retaliated for Iran's big fireworks show retaliation for the attack on the Iranian embassy in Damascus.
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-activates-air-defenses-and-cancels-flights-27b6d416
Blasts reported near Isfahan, central city home to nuclear, military sites; Iranian state media plays down incident
NPR did some analysis
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/04/nx-s1-5140058/satellite-images-dozens-iranian-missiles-struck-near-israeli-air-base
Researchers counted about 32 points where missiles landed around Nevatim Airbase in southern Israel. Israel says no fighter jets were destroyed and the base continues to operate.
The imagery, taken by the company Planet the day after the strike, shows damaged hangars, buildings, taxiways, and a crater on one of the runways at Nevatim Airbase. Videos posted to social media showed multiple warheads striking the base during the Oct. 1 attack by Iran.
Israel and the U.S. have downplayed the attack, which Israel says consisted of roughly 180 ballistic missiles. Israel said many were intercepted by its missile defenses. Two U.S. destroyers also fired about a dozen interceptors to try and blunt the strike.
Dmage to planes is possible, for example one could have been in the hangar which was struck. Yet the IDF remains tight lipped, no pictures from the actual damage, no reporters allowed on the bases.
It's standard operating procedure, play down damage, make it appear the attack has failed to keep up your image. Iran did the same as you can see in the WSJ article.
However, the intent was to show Israel can be hit, that the Iron Dome can be overwhelmed. Hence Iran calls it a success while Israel/US calls it a failure.
In the end, still one person died
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-overnight-deaths-school-1.7339849
Hundreds of mourners gathered in the Israeli-occupied West Bank on Wednesday for the funeral of a Palestinian man from Gaza, who was the sole fatality in Iran's missile attack against Israel a day earlier.
Sameh Khadr Hassan Al-Asali, 38, had been staying in a Palestinian security forces compound in the West Bank when he was killed by falling missile debris during Tuesday's attack, which Israel said was largely thwarted by its air defence systems.
And Iran did attack a target embedded in civilian infrastructure (Mossad building). Even though there are bomb shelters, not everyone can reach them in time and it won't help you much if a building collapses on top of the shelter. The bomb shelters do help protect from falling debris (thousands of pounds of 'inert' missile falling down at terminal velocity) It's still a war crime. The GZ video does show civilian infrastructure was hit.
More on Israel’s latest attacks on Beirut
Currently Online لحظة الغارات العنيفة على #الضاحية pic.twitter.com/1jRXtnuC7S
— Jamal Chaiito (@Jamalchaiito1) October 5, 2024
Lebanon’s state-run National News Agency (NNA) says that Israeli warplanes carried out four “very violent” air raids on the southern suburbs of the Lebanese capital, a frequent target of Israel.
Israel also carried out an air attack on the Choueifat area, in the hills to the southeast, just above Beirut’s southern suburbs. Plumes of smoke could be seen above the targeted areas, the NNA said.
غارات عنيفة جدااا على الضاحية في هذه الاثناء pic.twitter.com/VHUMcaogx0
— المختار (@mokhtarleb313) October 5, 2024
Hezbollah says it killed 25 Israeli soldiers
Hezbollah says it killed at least 25 Israeli soldiers since Israel launched a ground operation into southern Lebanon earlier this week.
The Israeli army said nine of its soldiers have been killed so far. The military also claims it killed 250 Hezbollah fighters.
Two killed in Israeli attack on Lebanon: Ministry
The Public Health Emergency Operations Center of Lebanon’s Ministry of Public Health says that the two were killed when Israeli warplanes bombed Jiyeh, Lebanon, only 20km (about 12.5 miles) from the capital, Beirut.
The ministry added that 18 others were wounded in the attack on the coastal town and that rescue teams were still working to remove rubble.
Israeli army claims attacks on Beirut
The Israeli army said it was attacking Hezbollah targets in the Beirut area. The message came after a huge explosion shook the southern suburbs of Beirut with state media saying Israeli forces launched at least four rockets.
The salvos came soon after the Israeli army issued an evacuation order for residents of specific buildings in that area of the Lebanese capital.
Hezbollah launches drone attack on Israel
The Lebanese group says on X that it launched a “squadron of attack drones” on the Israeli army’s Samson unit’s base, near Lake Tabarayya.
Hezbollah described the Samson unit and its base as “a command equipment centre and a regional equipment unit”, adding that the attack targeted the locations of officers and soldiers.
The drones hit their targets “with precision”, Hezbollah’s statement added.
The Israeli army said that it detected about “30 launches” coming from Lebanese territory in the Kiryat Shmona area, adding that some were intercepted and others crashed.
Attacks intensify in Lebanon’s Bekaa Valley, threatening UNESCO heritage sites
In Lebanon’s Beqaa Valley, the ancient city of Baalbek – home to two Roman temples designated as UNESCO World Heritage sites – is under increasing threat.
Attacks have intensified in the region as the city, known for being a Hezbollah stronghold, is struck by Israel’s military.
The temples, symbols of a rich cultural heritage, now stand in danger of damage due to the ongoing conflict.
Yeah the picture show only a corner of the airbase. The other parts may be more severely damaged. I counted like 24 missile hits.
Israeli military intercepts 3 UAVs ‘launched from the east’
The military said a navy warship “successfully intercepted” two unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) off the coast of northern Israel, that were “launched from the east” in recent hours. It added that Israeli fighter jets intercepted another UAV, also launched from the east, off the coast of Tel Aviv in central Israel.
No casualties or damage were reported in either incident.
Australia evacuates 407 people from Lebanon overnight
The Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said the 407 Australians and their family members departed Beirut on two government-assisted flights.
It said there were two more flights departing Beirut on Sunday and that they were fully booked. More flights are planned, subject to conditions on the ground, it said.
Several countries have evacuated their citizens from Lebanon amid hostilities between Israel’s military and Hezbollah. They include Japan, Netherlands, Poland, Romania, Russia, South Korea, Spain, the United Kingdom and the United States.
A plane takes off from Beirut’s Rafic Hariri International Airport, as smoke from Israeli strikes billows over the city’s southern suburbs
US evacuates 145 people out of Beirut
The US State Department says it helped 145 people evacuate Beirut on two flights it had organised out of the country on Saturday.
“To date, we have assisted over 600 US citizens, US Lawful Permanent Residents (LPRs), and their immediate family members in departing Lebanon via US organized flights,” a spokesperson added.
Israel’s military says it bombed weapons warehouses in Beirut
The military said in a post on X that its fighter jets carried out attacks throughout Beirut against a number of Hezbollah’s weapons warehouses and other infrastructure.
It said it gave advance warnings to people in the area to minimise harm to civilians.
Israel carried out more than 30 attacks on Beirut overnight
Lebanon’s National News Agency (NNA) is reporting that Beirut has just “witnessed the most violent night” since the beginning of Israel’s “aggression” on the country.
Israeli forces carried out more than 30 attacks on Beirut’s southern suburbs overnight, it said, the sounds of which could be heard throughout the city. The suburb, called Dahiyeh, is now covered by black smoke, the NNA reported.
As we’ve been reporting, the air raids came as Israel stepped up its bombardment of the southern suburbs, which are considered a stronghold of Hezbollah. Last week, it killed Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in a strike on Beirut and on Friday, it carried out another attack targeting the slain politician’s potential successor Hashem Safieddine.
Hezbollah claims attacks on Israeli troops in Manara
The Lebanese armed group says it launched three salvoes of rockets and missiles at Israeli soldiers in Manara in northern Israel in the early hours of Sunday.
Earlier, it also claimed attacks on Israeli troops who tried to infiltrate Lebanon through Khallet Shuaib in Blida. The attacks forced the Israeli troops to retreat, it added.
Israel intercepts missiles launched from Lebanon
The Israeli military says its air forces successfully shot down two surface-to-surface missiles launched from Lebanese territory.
The launches set off air raid sirens in parts of northern Israel.
Displacement crisis worsening in Lebanon
Beirut’s southern suburbs were home to 700,000 people. South Lebanon was home to 500,000 to 600,000 people. So residents of all these areas are just pouring into Beirut.
There are many people on the streets. Thousands of people are still on the sidewalks, on the beach and in the parks, not to mention the tens of thousands in schools and other facilities. The government is unable to deal with this situation.
UN agencies currently in Lebanon are trying to help, NGOs are trying to help, some Arab countries and others are also trying to help. And we’ve started seeing more aid coming into Lebanon, but it’s not possible for this government to deal with the weight of displacement. Because adding to the numbers of displaced Lebanese are also displaced Syrian and Palestinian refugees.
Yesterday, one of the biggest strikes was on the side of the Palestinian refugee camp in Burj el-Barajneh and that caused many Palestinians to leave that camp. The Sabra and Shatila camps also saw many people leaving for safer areas.
It’s becoming life-threatening to everyone and that’s why the displacement is so large.
Israel is seeking to change power structure in Lebanon
Nabeel Khoury, a former US diplomat who’s currently a non-resident senior fellow at the Arab Center, says Israel’s long-term goals for Lebanon are likely far more extensive than simply pushing back Hezbollah.
“In 2006, their goals were fairly limited. They were trying to degrade and push back Hezbollah. It didn’t last very long. This time around, the attacks have been much more extensive than they were back then. They are also all over Lebanon and not just in one area,” Khoury told Al Jazeera.
“I think they’re also seeking this time to change the power structure in Lebanon. There is currently no president in Lebanon because of a stalemate between the political factions. There’s a caretaker government. I think what they’d like to do is help install someone who would be if not totally allied with them, at least not hostile to Israel,” he said.
Khoury added that Netanyahu and his government are “not interested even in a temporary ceasefire” in Lebanon.
With many Western countries evacuating their citizens, it seems the consensus is there. It's going to be another long war, turning parts of Lebanon into Gaza.
Another regime change that is doomed to fail. The population will still be hostile, if not more hostile to Israel after all this is over. US couldn't do it with military force in Afghanistan, not in Iraq, not going to work for Israel in Lebanon. In fact US' failure in Iraq now has Iraqi terrorists firing at Israel as well.
Hezbollah was created during their 1982 attempt to change the power structure in Lebanon
(The 1982 Lebanon war began on 6 June 1982, when Israel invaded again for the purpose of attacking the Palestine Liberation Organization. The Israeli army laid siege to Beirut. During the conflict, according to Lebanese sources, between 15,000 and 20,000 people were killed, mostly civilians)
History repeating.
Hezbollah repels Israeli incursion into southern Lebanon
We heard a barrage of rocket fire and then almost immediately afterwards we got an alert from the Israeli army saying it intercepted surface-to-surface missiles. So Hezbollah is still very much in the fight.
In the last few moments, we heard an Israeli air strike – a very loud explosion – in the Bekaa Valley in the east of Lebanon. Fighting has been going on all night.
Hezbollah said it fired artillery along the border to repel an Israeli incursion into its territory. Also in Manara, in northern Israel, the group says it attacked Israeli soldiers as they evacuated their dead and wounded.
Fighting is also going on in Lebanon’s Yaroun and Odaisseh. In Odaisseh, Israeli forces have been trying to capture the municipal building for a few days now. These are only two areas along the 120km (75-mile) border area where the Israelis have gained some kind of foothold after being beaten back by Hezbollah.
At least 23 killed, 93 injured in Israeli air strikes across Lebanon
At least 23 people were killed and 93 wounded in Israeli bombing across Lebanon, the Health Ministry says.
The raids targeted the towns and villages of south Lebanon, Nabatieh, the eastern governorate of Bekaa, Baalbek-Hermel, Mount Lebanon, and the north, the ministry added on their X account.
“Israeli strikes yesterday on towns and villages of southern Lebanon” and other parts of the country “killed 23 people and wounded 93 others,” it said.
Casualty figures from more recent bombardment on Beirut’s southern suburbs after midnight were not included.
Israeli military sends ‘urgent’ evacuation order for south Lebanon villages
The Israeli military ordered people in 25 villages in southern Lebanon to evacuate immediately signalling it’s expanding its ground offensive.
Avichay Adraee, the army’s Arabic-language spokesman, told residents of the villages – including Houla, Meiss el-Jabal, and Bilda – to evacuate or risk “putting their lives in danger”.
“Do not go south,” he said, adding Lebanese residents must move north of the Awali River.
Some of the listed villages have repeatedly been targets of the Israeli military in its bombings of southern Lebanon for the past year. Fighter jets carried out a bombing raid of Kfar Kila to target Hezbollah fighters.
UNHCR head urges ‘desperately needed ceasefire’ in Lebanon visit
Filippo Grandi has called for a ceasefire in Lebanon after visiting families sheltering in schools in Beirut.
“What they need most is for airstrikes to stop so they can return to their homes safely,” the head of the UN’s refugee agency quoted the displaced people as telling him.
Grandi arrived in the Lebanese capital on Saturday, saying his visit was in solidarity with those affected by the Israeli air attacks and aimed at supporting the humanitarian effort to provide care to hundreds of thousands of people left destitute or without a home.
“A ceasefire in Lebanon is desperately needed,” Grandi said in a post on X, adding that the international community “must step up humanitarian support to those in need”.
Displaced families hosted in Beirut schools say that what they need most is for airstrikes to stop so they can return to their homes safely.
A #ceasefire in Lebanon is desperately needed.
Meanwhile the international community must step up humanitarian support to those in need. pic.twitter.com/z77Srz4NNu
— Filippo Grandi (@FilippoGrandi) October 6, 2024
Israeli army says it killed Hezbollah commander
The Israeli military says an air strike killed a Hezbollah commander in the southern Lebanese village of Kafr Kila, who it claimed was responsible for a deadly anti-tank missile attack on Israel in January.
Hacher Ali Tawil was responsible for strike on the village of Yuval on January 14, which killed Barak Ayalon, 45, and his mother Miri Ayalon, 76.
Israel and Hezbollah have traded fire across the Lebanon border almost daily since the day after Hamas’ deadly cross-border attack on October 7, 2023.
Islamic Resistance in Iraq launches drones at Israeli targets in Golan
The umbrella group of Iran-aligned militias in Iraq announced three separate attacks on Israeli positions in the occupied Golan Heights.
Neither the Islamic Resistance in Iraq or the Israeli military immediately commented on the potential impact.
The latest attacks come two days after the group launched two drones at a military base in the occupied territory. One was intercepted but the other hit Israeli soldiers, killing two and wounding 24. That was the first time a projectile launched from Iraq managed to inflict casualties on Israeli forces.
Suspected Israeli missiles hit car factory in Syria’s Homs
Explosions rocked an automotive factory in Hassia in the Homs governorate of Syria, according to the country’s state-run SANA news agency.
Two Israeli missiles are suspected to have hit the industrial area, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
The pro-militia Sabereen News outlet in Iraq released a short video showing plumes of smoke rising from the area. At least one person was killed and three were wounded after vehicles purportedly carrying aid supplies were struck.
New blast rocks southern Beirut
In the last few minutes another massive explosion rocked the southern suburbs of Beirut. During the nights there are warnings. During the days there are no warnings.
The area where the massive air strike took place a few hours ago is the same place that the Israeli warplanes have been hitting since Thursday. It’s adjacent to the international airport, though the airport is still working.
The whole area was shaking when the attacks happened, and the road that leads to the airport has also been hit twice by the Israeli warplanes.
Across the southern suburb, there have been several places that were attacked by the Israeli drones or aircraft, and still the emergency services are being prevented from getting close to that area.
Israeli strikes displace 20,000 Palestinian refugees in Lebanon
Israeli military strikes on Lebanon have displaced about 20,000 Palestinian refugees in the country.
The UN’s agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA) said it opened emergency shelters for more than 4,300 displaced people and is ready to open more. Shelters are filling up fast as the Israeli military intensifies its attacks on Lebanon.
Israeli strikes on the Gaza Strip have also internally displaced about 1.9 million people, or 90 percent of the population in the besieged enclave.
As violence escalates in #Lebanon, around 20,000 Palestine Refugees have been forcibly displaced following Israeli airstrikes on camps.@UNRWA activated emergency shelters for over 4,300 displaced people, including Palestine Refugees, Lebanese and Syrians. The Agency stands… pic.twitter.com/MNNri19dMw
— UNRWA (@UNRWA) October 6, 2024
Israeli military says 150 Hezbollah targets hit in past 24 hours
The Israeli military says Hezbollah launched about 25 rockets and multiple drones over the past few hours. Most were intercepted over Western Galilee, in northern Israel, and others fell in open areas with no deaths.
The army also said it hit 150 sites purportedly used by Hezbollah in the past day alone, including infrastructure in southern Lebanon.
Hezbollah claimed seven attacks on Israeli positions so far today, with the latest a rocket salvo at military sites near the border.
Qatar welcomes Macron’s call to halt weapon supplies to Israel
Qatar’s Foreign Ministry welcomed French President Emmanuel Macron’s call to stop supplying weapons to Israel. “Macron’s call is an important and appreciated step towards stopping the war and is consistent with UN resolutions and the International Court of Justice,” it said.
“We renew our call to the international community to take firm decisions to compel Israel to stop its aggression on Gaza and Lebanon,” it added.
Blinken calls Qatar’s PM on Lebanon
US State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller says on X that Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke with Qatar’s prime minister, Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman bin Jassim Al Thani, on the phone today.
He said the pair spoke on “the importance of implementing UN Security Council Resolution 1701 to allow civilians to return to their homes in Lebanon and Israel”.
Resolution 1701, adopted in 2006, deals with implementing the full cessation of hostilities between Hezbollah and Lebanon. Both Hezbollah and Israel accuse each other of failing to adhere to the terms of this resolution.
The two men also touched on currently stalled efforts to reach a ceasefire in Gaza, Miller added.
Iranian presence at the summit of Asia is important – Analysis
Roxane Farmanfarmaian, a Middle East security specialist and a professor of modern Middle East politics at the University of Cambridge, says Iran’s presence at the Third Asia Cooperation Dialogue summit being held by Qatar is “important at this juncture”.
“They are discussing the situation with their Arab and Gulf colleagues. And the Arab neighbours have been assuring Iran that they will be neutral in any particular conflict that might arise as a result of Israeli retaliation [to Iran’s missile attack],” she told Al Jazeera.
“I think this is very reassuring for Iran,” she added.
‘No security will be found in greater destabilisation’: UK PM
Prime Minister Keir Starmer has called for restraint saying Israel’s yearlong war on Gaza has affected community relations in the UK.
“The sparks light touchpapers in our own communities here at home,” Starmer wrote in the Sunday Times before the anniversary of the October 7 attack on Israel. “Israel and the Middle East are not just inseparable from our nation’s history. They have a deep relationship with our multicultural society. Millions have family ties to the region.”
While Starmer said the UK would “stand with Israel in the face of Iranian aggression”, he also cautioned “a better future will not be won by traumatising, orphaning and displacing another generation.”
“The anniversary of the October 7 attacks should remind us of the cost of political failure. No security will be found in greater destabilisation.”
Netanyahu promises to respond to Iran’s missile attack
In those remarks that Benjamin Netanyahu delivered on Saturday evening, there were no specifics as to what Israel is going to target when it retaliates against Iran. But what we are hearing – not just from the prime minister but also from a lot of government ministers and other officials – is that Israel is committed to retaliating against Iran and that this strike will be severe, and that it will be strong.
Netanyahu said: “Iran has already twice launched hundreds of missiles on our land and on our cities in one of the largest ballistic missile attacks in history”. He said that “no country in the world would tolerate such an assault on its cities and civilians” and that “Israel has the obligation and the right to defend itself and to respond to these attacks”.
One of the other things I should mention is that Netanyahu was critical of French President Emmanuel Macron. That’s because Macron on Saturday suggested that world powers that are shipping armaments to Israel should perhaps stop doing so, in order to put political pressure on Israel to try to enter into a ceasefire.
That rankled Netanyahu, who essentially told Macron, “Shame on you”, and suggested to any other Western powers that such moves are absolutely unacceptable. He said that Israel would win this war whether they got the help from those world powers or not.
Israel’s Bennett calls for attacks on Iran’s nuclear sites
Naftali Bennett, a former Israeli prime minister and an ultranationalist politician, has expressed support for attacks on Iranian nuclear sites, as well as its leadership and oil facilities.
He was responding to calls by US President Joe Biden for a “proportionate” Israeli reaction to Iran’s missile attack last week.
“Israel must: – Attack Iran’s nuclear program, and: ⁃Attack Iran’s leadership, and: ⁃Hit and cripple the regime’s main economic interests (energy etc.),” Bennett said in a post on X.
“All of these would be only a fraction of what Iran did to Israel. So indeed it won’t be ‘proportional’, it’ll be much less,” he added.
Iran’s oil minister visits key terminal during Israel attack fears
Iran’s Oil Minister Mohsen Paknejad landed on Kharg Island as concerns swirl that Israel could attack Iran’s largest oil terminal there.
“Paknejad arrived this morning in order to visit the oil facilities and meet operational staff located on Kharg Island,” the Oil Ministry’s news website Shana reported.
The oil terminal can store 23 million barrels of crude, it said.
China, which does not recognise US sanctions, is Tehran’s main client. Analysts say China imported 1.2 to 1.4 million barrels per day from Iran in the first half of 2024.
An oil production platform at the Soroush oil fields in the Gulf, 1,250km (776 miles) south of Tehran
Iran may end up like Gaza, Beirut: Israeli defence minister
Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant says Iran might end up looking like Gaza or Beirut if it tries to harm Israel. The comments come as Israel threatens to strike its arch-enemy after a huge missile attack last week.
“The Iranians did not touch the air force’s capabilities – no aircraft was damaged, no squadron was taken out of order,” Gallant said in a statement, referring to Iran’s attack that hit two Israeli airbases.
“Whoever thinks that a mere attempt to harm us will deter us from taking action should take a look at Gaza and Beirut.
“We are strong, both in defence and offence and we will bring this to fruition – in the way we choose, at the time we choose, in the place we choose. And these things for us … are not just a statement or just a direction but a working plan.”
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