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Gaza death toll rises

At least 59 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli attacks across Gaza since dawn, 20 of whom were aid seekers in the southern and central parts of the besieged enclave.


Child, journalist among 6 killed in Deir el-Balah

At least six people have been killed in an Israeli drone attack in Deir el-Balah in central Gaza.

Sources at Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital told Al Jazeera that a child and a journalist were among the victims.


‘Gaza gasping for water’ after Israeli attacks on water supply networks

Humanitarian agencies in Gaza say that Israeli strikes have destroyed kilometres of water supply networks. The destruction of the wells and pipelines is worsening the daily hardships faced by Palestinians, who are already struggling to meet basic needs.

Al Jazeera’s Ibrahim al-Khalili, reporting from Gaza City, said that “Israel’s intense ongoing attacks have disrupted water supplies, leaving many with limited access to clean water”.

He added that “more than 75 percent of Gaza’s central water wells are out of service”.

Asem Alnabih, a Gaza municipality spokesperson, said: “People in Gaza are really suffering from water scarcity now. That’s as a result of the destruction of the water wells in the city. People are getting less than a quarter of their daily needs of water.”

Nahla Ayoub, a Palestinian queueing up for water, said: “Gaza is gasping for water. We wait in line for hours, but we still don’t get enough. We are suffering, and the children are the ones who feel it the most. It’s heart-wrenching to see this happen to our people.”


UNRWA sounds alarm over casualties in Gaza, mass displacement in West Bank

The UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA) warns in its latest situation report that Israel’s escalating military assaults have further crippled life-saving services in Gaza, where famine and displacement are worsening.

UNRWA said escalating Israeli attacks on Gaza City, including on tents sheltering displaced people, homes and civilian infrastructure, are causing heavy casualties, blocking aid efforts and forcing more people to flee.

In southern Gaza, families are crammed into makeshift tents along the coast, overcrowded schools, or sleeping in the open amid rubble.

In the occupied West Bank, it warned that Israeli military incursions have stretched past nine months, with about 32,000 Palestinian refugees from Tulkarem, Nur Shams and Jenin camps still unable to return home.


Photojournalist killed in Israeli strike on Deir el-Balah

Turkish broadcaster TRT has confirmed that photojournalist Yahya Barzaq, who was a TRT freelancer, was among the six people killed in an Israeli air strike in Deir el-Balah earlier today.

Barzaq, who once worked as a photographer of newborns, had turned to documenting the war, capturing images of destruction and survival.

TRT director-general Mehmet Zahid Sobacı has been quoted by local media as condemning Israel’s “brutal” attack. Israeli attacks have killed at least 253 journalists in Gaza since the start of the war, according to Gaza’s Government Media Office.



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Main events on September 30th

  • Trump told reporters that Israeli and Arab leaders have accepted his Gaza plan and that Hamas has three to four days to respond.
  • Qatar says Hamas officials received the full plan late on Monday night and have promised to “responsibly examine” it.
  • Netanyahu has released a video message, claiming that the Israeli military will “remain in most of Gaza”, just hours after he agreed to a Trump proposal that stipulates its withdrawal.
  • The UN special rapporteur on the right to housing has raised concerns about some of the details included in Trump’s plan, such as a proposed “permanent buffer zone”.
  • Amid talks of peace, Israel is continuing its attacks across Gaza, killing at least 59 Palestinians since dawn.
  • In the so-called safe humanitarian zone of al-Mawasi, an Israeli strike hit a tent, killing a father, a mother who was seven months pregnant and their child.
  • The Global Sumud Flotilla has entered an area classified as “high-risk” where activists and crew members are expecting an interception by the Israeli navy.

It seems the ceasefire between the US and the Houthis are about to be broken after the Yemeni fighters announced their intention to target major US oil firms in the nearby seas. They even released the names of American entities, their CEOs and two ships that they intend to target in time to come. Rifat Jawaid explains the geopolitical significance of this latest announcement.

 



CNN mostly cheers on Trump's ME policy, but there are still some realists, not fully under Aipac control (yet)

Greatness in the Middle East? Don’t hold your breath

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/01/middleeast/analysis-trump-israel-gaza-peace-plan-latam-intl

The hype was classic Trump.

“We have a real chance for GREATNESS IN THE MIDDLE EAST,” the US president posted in all caps on his Truth Social account Sunday. “ALL ARE ON BOARD FOR SOMETHING SPECIAL, FIRST TIME EVER. WE WILL GET IT DONE!!!”

The next day, he announced that Israel had agreed to a 20-point American proposal to end the war in Gaza, arrange an exchange of Israeli hostages (living and dead) for Palestinian prisoners (living and dead), establish an internationally supervised administration for the battered enclave, and bring about a partial withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza, and, eventually, vague notions of “a sovereign Palestinian state alongside Israel, with secure, recognized borders.”

Going back decades, American leaders have rolled out grand schemes to the conflict, only to see them either collapse in catastrophe or fizzle out in disappointment and recriminations.


Following Israel’s 1982 invasion of Lebanon, President Ronald Reagan announced a “fresh start,” calling for the withdrawal of all foreign forces from Lebanon, a freeze on Israeli settlements, and Palestinian self-government in the West Bank and Gaza.


None of that happened.


Eleven years later, on a sunny September day in what was the White House Rose Garden, Palestine Liberation Organization leader Yasser Arafat and Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin oversaw the signing of the so-called Oslo Accords, designed to set in motion an end to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. An emotional President Bill Clinton solemnly declared “For too long, the children of Abraham have turned swords against each other. Today, at last, that changes.”


American President Bill Clinton watches as the Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin shakes hands with the Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat in the garden of the White House after the signing of the Oslo Accords on September 13, 1993

No, “that” didn’t change.


World leaders have rushed to applaud President Donald Trump’s complex Gaza plan. After two years of this brutal war that has been livestreamed instantaneously around the globe, hard would be the heart of whoever does not greet the chance to end the bloodshed with anything but relief.

No doubt Trump is basking in the glow of success.

Not so fast.

Hours after the Israeli delegation left the White House the Israeli daily Ha’aretz reported that when asked if he and Trump had “agreed to the establishment of a Palestinian state, Netanyahu stated unequivocally, “Absolutely not, that is not even written in the agreement.””

Already his coalition partners are snapping at Netanyahu’s heels for publicly accepting the plan. Far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich described the prime minister’s acceptance of the plan as “a resounding diplomatic failure, a willful blindness and a betrayal of all the lessons of the October 7 attack. In my view, it will all end in tears.”

Netanyahu may have been the image of confidence while on the grounds of the White House. Promises made in Washington, however, may be hard to keep when he returns to the boxing ring that is Israeli politics.


US President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu leave the State Dining Room of the White House after a press conference in Washington, DC on September 29

Note how Trump wearily follows his smiling master...
Wanted war criminal walking through the White House like he owns the place (which he basically does)


Hamas has yet to agree to the Trump plan. Israel hasn’t officially accepted it either, despite Netanyahu’s beaming smile standing next to Trump.


And above and beyond all that, the Trump plan ignores the elephant in the room, which beyond Gaza’s fate, is Israel’s settlement and occupation of east Jerusalem and the West Bank. Though Trump said on September 25 that Israel will not annex the West Bank, there is nary a mention of the other Palestinian territory in the latest proposal.


One of the things completely left out of the 'peace' (occupation) plan is the situation in the West Bank and any acknowledgement that Gaza and the West Bank are / should be unified. There is only a vague suggestion of a future process towards a Palestinian state after Gaza has been 'pacified' and under international control. 

Every US administration since 1967 has shied away from pressuring Israel to stop – or reverse – its process of establishing settlements in occupied territory.

For decades, successive administrations have described these settlements as an “obstacle to peace.” It was a constant refrain from White House and State Department spokespeople that rang hollow as Israel charged ahead, creating settlements across the West Bank and east Jerusalem. The settler population in those areas has grown from just around 20,000 in the early 1970s to more than 750,000 today.

Trump recently vowed he will not allow Israel to annex the West Bank – something Israeli officials threatened to do after several countries recently recognized Palestinian statehood. Yet apart from the legal niceties, Israel has already, for all intents and purposes, taken over the territory. It controls movement within and into the West Bank, operates its own two-tier legal system (one for Israelis, the other for Palestinians) and is the ultimate authority there.


Trump is certainly not going to act to change these facts on the ground.

But it is these very facts that fuel the conflict. Anyone who has been to the West Bank and seen how Israeli security forces and settlers operate and often abuse the Palestinian population will quickly understand why Palestinians are so opposed (and often violently so) to Israel’s presence there.

Perhaps Trump’s 20-point plan for Gaza will bring an end to the war in Gaza. Perhaps it will signal the demise of Hamas. Perhaps it will enable the Palestinians of Gaza to rebuild their shattered lives. Perhaps it will reunite the Israeli hostages held by Hamas with their loved ones.

Greatness in the Middle East? Don’t hold your breath. The best one can cautiously hope for is a pause in the killing in Gaza.


I fully agree with this analysis. Not addressing the root cause: Israel's settler colonial project of 'Judea and Samaria' and Greater Israel, as well as keeping up apartheid and occupation while striving to maintain an ethostate will only indefinitely extent the conflict and ethnocide.

As long as Israel stays an ethnocracy clinging onto ideas of (white European) Jewish supremacy, there is no solution. 







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So I guess you are agains the deal?

Hamas lost the war but just don't get how Hamas getting out of Gaza will not result in a new similar group, just call it Humus and then what?






konnichiwa said:

So I guess you are agains the deal?

Hamas lost the war but just don't get how Hamas getting out of Gaza will not result in a new similar group, just call it Humus and then what?

I don't believe it's a deal at all.

It's an ultimatum to total surrender and a way to legitimize further occupation while making sure Israel keeps all the 'tools' to prevent a Palestinian state and keep up the apartheid and occupation.

It's not a peace plan, it's a calm down the "outright killing / ethnic cleansing" plan because the world has gotten too involved with the genocide.

It's all business deals to keep the Gulf states on board the Abraham accords and give mega corporations a break from the BDS movement. There is nothing in it for Palestinians besides not getting bombed for a while, and potentially a 'flood' of aid. Yet in the previous ceasefire that also only lasted a couple days before Israel started to hinder aid again with insane restrictions, slowing down the aid further and further until blocking everything early March when Israel broke the ceasefire.

If the 'deal' had any plausibility of success, backed by guarantees and solid time lines, then I would be hopeful. 


But maybe Hamas will play along for a bit, return the hostages and get some desperate needed aid in. Yet I doubt it will even last as long as the previous 'ceasefire' before Israel resumes bombing and blocks all aid.

You don't end a genocide through negotiation, never been done before. The problem is Israeli society. The only realistic solution is sanctions and reform to end apartheid and settler supremacy. With the risk that Israel turns into another North Korea. The other option is military intervention, yet that only brings more death.

The biggest hurdle is the USA's continued unconditional support for Israel. The idea that the US could even broker a ceasefire deal is ludicrous given the previous decades. You see it in Lebanon, one sided ceasefire while Israel still occupies and bombs Southern Lebanon on a daily basis. US-France backed ceasefire deal, meaningless.


And yes, new resistance groups will form or Hamas will simply rebrand itself. Israel hasn't been able to break the resistance in the West Bank either despite tight control, mass surveillance and the puppet PA government.



We’ve been hearing from the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which has posted a video on X, attempting to link these humanitarian missions to Hamas.

We are hearing from the Israeli media that the Israeli navy has taken over and now has control over two boats. We have also heard the Israeli government accuse the flotilla of trying to be provocative when they refused Israeli offers to take the humanitarian assistance to Gaza.

Of course, we know that Israel has not been allowing aid into Gaza, and is accused of using famine as a weapon of war. Israel is also impeding the entry of assistance of food, medicine and vital supplies. It’s even impeding the entry of critical supplies for children who are severely malnourished.

The aid on board could save potentially the lives of children who are dying of engineered starvation.

Israel, Sumud Flotilla release videos of communications as interception begins

The Israeli Foreign Ministry has released a video purportedly showing an Israeli navy officer telling the flotilla to change its course to the Israeli port of Ashdod “where the aid will undergo a security inspection” before being transferred to Gaza.

The Global Sumud Flotilla released its own video showing a response from steering committee member Thiago Avila.

“You say that we are entering an active warzone. You are saying that we are entering a place where you are committing war crimes,” Avila said. “This is against international law. Once again, the International Court of Justice made a provisional ruling that any attempt to hinder a humanitarian mission to Gaza is prohibited by international law, and [the flotilla] is complying with the request to make you accountable for the crime of genocide.”

“It is our moral duty to refuse any attempt of an occupying force to control humanitarian aid for the Palestinian people in Gaza who have … the right to control their own borders,” he added. “Therefore, we do not recognise you as a legitimate agent to bring aid to the Palestinian people in Gaza.”

Why the Flotilla will not ‘hand over’ aid to Israel

Israel has demanded several times that the Global Sumud Flotilla hand over the aid its vessels are carrying, claiming that it will distribute it to the people in Gaza.

The GSF has refused. Here are the reasons it has shared for its refusal:

  1. It does not believe Israel’s claims, given that it has not been allowing the full entry of UN aid into Gaza for months, causing a famine that led to accusations of using starvation as a weapon of war.
  2. The international laws of the sea expressly prohibit naval blockades that cause starvation of civilians and obligate the granting of safe passage to humanitarian aid.


Connection cut with several flotilla vessels

Many of the live feeds from the vessels participating in the Sumud Flotilla have now been cut as suspected Israeli vessels surround the ships trying to break the blockade on Gaza.

Our sister channel Al Jazeera Mubasher says it has lost connection with their correspondent Hayat Yamani, who is on board the Sirius, one of the flotilla vessels.

Italy’s largest union announces general strike over flotilla handling

Italy’s largest union says it is calling a general strike for Friday in protest over the treatment of the Sumud flotilla.

Earlier, Italian Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani said he had been assured by his Israeli counterpart that Israeli forces will not use any violence on the flotilla.

US activist claims abduction in pre-recorded video

US citizen and activist Leila Hegazy, who is on one the vessels part of the Sumud flotilla, has posted a pre-recorded message on social media stating that her sharing the video means she has been “kidnapped by the Israeli occupation forces and brought to Israel against [her] will”.

“Please understand that this is an illegal act under international law and should be treated as such,” she says.

“I ask you all to pressure the United States government to end its complicity in the genocide of the Palestinian people in Gaza and also to ensure the safe return of every humanitarian on this mission.”

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Legal expert outlines possible scenarios for detained Gaza flotilla activists

Hassan Jabareen, director of the legal centre Adalah, which has represented flotilla activists in the past, told Al Jazeera what the coming days could look like for international activists aboard the Gaza-bound aid convoy.

“The law says within 72 hours you are allowed to deport them; however, if you want to arrest them, you must bring them before the court within 96 hours,” Jabareen explained.

But he cautioned that “this time, we do not know what Israel will do.”

He added that some activists could be arrested but noted that Israel usually opts for immediate release. “If they arrest and detain them, it can lead to a losing situation, because media coverage will continue as long as they are in custody,” he said.

“If you bring them to court, the international media will continue to cover, and they will cover the legal argument for that,” he added.

He also warned that the Israeli holiday Yom Kippur could delay any legal proceedings for detained activists.