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Ryuu96 said:
LurkerJ said:

Turning twitter into 4chan seems is top-tier political accomplishment. I am just listening to Novara media's coverage of this phone call, my god, what am I listening to, I see a co-ordinated election denial in X's future. 

I've no doubt he will absolutely spread election conspiracy theories if Harris wins, whether directly by tweeting or RTing stuff himself or his usual stupid replies of "Hmm. Interesting!" "Concerning!" to obvious bullshit. He has already tried to fan flames in the UK, in Germany, in Europe at large, he does absolutely nothing about the rampant bot issue on Twitter, the propaganda bullshit being spread everywhere which he himself spreads whilst censoring on behalf of right wing governments. The dude fucking talks up the IRA of old FFS, Lol. He's a menace to Europe and will be one to America too, especially if Harris wins and I hope if Harris wins and if Elon helps spread election conspiracy theories that the government finally comes down hard on him.

He'll run for president next. The left need to drop neoliberalism and centrism completely going forward to truly beat trump and trump-likes, including the policies that socialised the risk and privatised the rewards for people like him. 



LurkerJ said:
Ryuu96 said:

I've no doubt he will absolutely spread election conspiracy theories if Harris wins, whether directly by tweeting or RTing stuff himself or his usual stupid replies of "Hmm. Interesting!" "Concerning!" to obvious bullshit. He has already tried to fan flames in the UK, in Germany, in Europe at large, he does absolutely nothing about the rampant bot issue on Twitter, the propaganda bullshit being spread everywhere which he himself spreads whilst censoring on behalf of right wing governments. The dude fucking talks up the IRA of old FFS, Lol. He's a menace to Europe and will be one to America too, especially if Harris wins and I hope if Harris wins and if Elon helps spread election conspiracy theories that the government finally comes down hard on him.

He'll run for president next. The left need to drop neoliberalism and centrism completely going forward to truly beat trump and trump-likes, including the policies that socialised the risk and privatised the rewards for people like him. 

In an ideal world we would have more than two parties, but it's not going to happen at this point.  Really the moderate democrats and the moderate republicans that are getting pushed out of politics should be their own party with the far right and far left being in the other two main parties.  But I feel like that would only increase the chances of the far right winning most elections. 



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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/nevada/

It is worth mentioning a slightly more recent poll in Nevada with a larger sample size has both candidates to a tie at 40% and an even more recent one depicts a smaller 3% lead for Trump but it is from a Republican-funded pollster that shows significant bias for them everywhere they poll compare to other pollsters. 



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rapsuperstar31 said:
LurkerJ said:

He'll run for president next. The left need to drop neoliberalism and centrism completely going forward to truly beat trump and trump-likes, including the policies that socialised the risk and privatised the rewards for people like him. 

In an ideal world we would have more than two parties, but it's not going to happen at this point.  Really the moderate democrats and the moderate republicans that are getting pushed out of politics should be their own party with the far right and far left being in the other two main parties.  But I feel like that would only increase the chances of the far right winning most elections. 

Moderate in the USA = right wing.

If you don't start follow Bernie's politics, you will get a Trump every 4 years. Kamala's campaign has been the biggest myth buster in recent memory for what a dem campaign should look or feel or sound like. Biden is heading in the right direction, now dial that up to 11. 



Harris and Walz fill me with more excitement than any UK PM during my life. 😂

Corbyn (not a PM) comes close but Corbyn's foreign policy views have really soured me on him.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 14 August 2024

LurkerJ said:
rapsuperstar31 said:

In an ideal world we would have more than two parties, but it's not going to happen at this point.  Really the moderate democrats and the moderate republicans that are getting pushed out of politics should be their own party with the far right and far left being in the other two main parties.  But I feel like that would only increase the chances of the far right winning most elections. 

Moderate in the USA = right wing.

If you don't start follow Bernie's politics, you will get a Trump every 4 years. Kamala's campaign has been the biggest myth buster in recent memory for what a dem campaign should look or feel or sound like. Biden is heading in the right direction, now dial that up to 11. 

There are more moderate voters than there are for right or far left.  You can certainly rip of the band aide and try to push Bernie's views further. but you are going to push more and more boomers to the right.  Me personally I'm voting Kamala and will vote for the left whenever republicans run Trump or someone similar.  I do nor identify with Bernie's views and do agree with his platform either.



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