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Alright, I'm convinced Biden will be gone now, Democrats are starting to break ranks, it feels over for him, as soon as someone like Pelosi or Schumer tell him to step down then he'll be gone. Guess it's Harris! Hope Democrats actually all get united behind her instead of screaming into the void "We didn't want her! We want *insert 20 different names*!" Lol.

Dems only win if they're united. Can't afford to spend months fighting over each other for the nomination spot, it has to be Biden or it has to be Harris and whatever one it is, Democrats need to at some point stop and get 100% united behind them. They'll probably be a fight for VP but that should be cut short too, we do not have the time for this fighting, make it Beshear or Shapiro, a quick decision.

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UK's centre-left party beat the right-wing party in a landslide (and the far-right party won less seats than expected) and France's left wing united when it mattered and despite all polls/projections, the far-right came way under than predicted with the left-wing achieving the most seats. Issue is incumbents are being battered across the world (Macron's gamble backfired on his own party but it should still be ahead of RN) whether left or right due to current world issues like inflation, it seems like it is an actual weakness to be the incumbent right now and that will likely apply to America too but Democrats should take notes of what the left in France achieved by being united and having a clear message. Still a concerning increasing of far-right across Europe but UK and France's elections were a victory for now for the left and the far-right very much overestimated in polls in France's case and for now, the far-right has been kept at bay.

Happy with UK and France...Don't let us down, America.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 07 July 2024

American learns what a multi-party parliamentary system is.



Not sure why you think Trump is better for USA’s bottom line or that there is bias in the media coverage recently.

Big businesses are happier with flawed stable democracies they can influence with their infinite money than playing by China or Russia-like rules that a Trump presidency may bring.

Biden is not a grassroots politician, if his donors aren’t happy, we will find out, and I think this is what’s happening right now, hence, the change in tune by the media. It’s odd alarm bells haven’t been ringing for much longer, yes, but we are a logical bunch and the world is mad (and stupid).



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LurkerJ said:

Not sure why you think Trump is better for USA’s bottom line or that there is bias in the media coverage recently.

Big businesses are happier with flawed stable democracies they can influence with their infinite money than playing by China or Russia-like rules that a Trump presidency may bring.

Biden is not a grassroots politician, if his donors aren’t happy, we will find out, and I think this is what’s happening right now, hence, the change in tune by the media. It’s odd alarm bells haven’t been ringing for much longer, yes, but we are a logical bunch and the world is mad (and stupid).

Huh? Is this directed at me? I never said Trump is better for USA's bottom line or big businesses in general, I said that he is better for media outlets though and I stand by that because, it's common sense, controversy brings clicks, controversy gives you stuff to write about. Trump is better for the media specifically because he brings in that controversy, he brings in those clicks.

The New York Times has straight up been exposed already as intentionally pushing negative coverage of Biden because he wouldn't give them an interview, Lol. Fox News and NY Post are Murdoch scum-rags so no explanation needed. Around 1-2 years ago, members of the media were straight up complaining that Biden is too boring and for Christ sakes, CNN has written over 100 articles on Biden's age recently, Lol.

The biggest lie told is that the media in America is left-wing/liberal, they aren't, they only care about one thing, that's making money, and in the business of media the best way to make money nowadays is through controversial stories, clickbait, rage-bait, etc and Trump brings that in spades, these billionaire owners don't give a shit about the public as long as they are making the money.

The change in tune by the media didn't just happen after the debate, they've been banging on about Biden's age for years now, and even before the debate they were tripping over themselves to post the most obvious nonsense, clipped videos, exaggerations, etc. Now things are different, I don't deny that, Biden is cooked, his age is definitely a problem but I guarantee you the moment Biden is swapped, the media will change to "Dems in chaos!"

Yes, Trump is trash for *most* businesses but the way media makes money is benefitted by a guy like Trump.

I don't trust them, I 100% believe that most media in America wants Trump back.

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But it's pretty irrelevant now anyway because Biden's age is an issue so...Just not about to pretend like the media are on our side, they aren't.

But now the issue becomes is it easier to fight against Biden's age attacks or start anew with Harris who will equally come with her own attacks, that the Democrats are in chaos, that they can't stand behind their president, etc. Then Dems will need to STFU and unite behind Harris 100% if she does replace Biden but as it stands right now, I think both Biden and Harris would lose to Trump if elections were held today, even worse I think Biden still has the best shot against Trump versus other Democrats so I honestly don't have a clue what to do, stick with Biden or take a huge gamble, both options seem like bad options right now, maybe Harris can change that around in a few months, Idk, but she is the only option if not Biden.



Nice to see people feeling inspired by UK/France even if the situations aren't 100% comparable, I hope it gives them hope for November and has a bit of a domino effect in inspiring left-wing voters, take tips from how Labour ran a very effective campaign and the French left mobilised brilliantly to hold off the far-right, put aside their differences and united under one banner.

DNC need to decide whether it's going to be Biden or Harris then move on and unite 100% behind them and get to work.

Also, don't be selfish, the stakes are too high for that, Republicans are 100% united under their candidate no matter what he does, Democrats can't afford the infighting, this whole Biden drama needs to be put to bed one way or another soon, and if anyone wants to run in 2028 but is upset that Harris will be the incumbent president in 2028 if she is 2024 nominee and wins, tough shit, get over it, this election is bigger than your career.

On the other side, a lot of Americans screaming that UK and France's elections were rigged, Lmfao.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 07 July 2024

Looks like the far-right in France accepted their loss without trying to overthrow their government.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 08 July 2024