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My over under for vote percentage:

Clinton ~ 52%

Obama ~ 48%

Delegates...Obama could eke out 50% based on where he is strong vs. where Clinton is strong



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TheSource said:

My over under for vote percentage:

Clinton ~ 52%

Obama ~ 48%

Delegates...Obama could eke out 50% based on where he is strong vs. where Clinton is strong


It seems more of a Clinton-54% Obama-46% to me. Based on polls he might get a little higher, but I think it will be around that range. I don't think Obama has a shot at winning Pennsylvania or being within a five percent of Clinton



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Pretty interesting to see where Clinton/Obama are winning in PA.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/18018274.html

People are difficult to govern because they have too much knowledge.

When there are more laws, there are more criminals.

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Clinton won in my county(Luzerne) by alot.



CaptainPrefrences said:
pimpcoop said:

Yes they will be tonight on any new channel like cnn,msnbc,fox news ect....ALso if Obama wins PA it is all over.

I do not want Hilary to win bc I am sick of the Bush clinton Bush clinton treow. Second I do not want Bill back in the white house no matter what he is there for!

I do not like Obama bc I do not know if he will bring all the blacks who hate america and could be in with a terrorist group. I mean if you go church with a reveroun who hates american the country you could be president of, then there is something there not right he is not telling us.

 


Are you fucking retarted? You seriously think Obama is a terrorist just because his father was muslim and his middle name is Hussain?

And I get flamed for saying 9/11 wasnt done by muslim extremists


Well you can not trust eaither of them at all. I do not want Bill Cliton back in office. He could tell Hilary what to do and if you did not know Bill CLinton had to quiet his job in Dubie so it would not hurt Hilary campaine. He also got payed 20 million.

Obama is could turn on all of us and then America would be screwed for the rest of my life! I just can not trust a guys word like I did with Bush and his crap he say!!!!!

Bucks County Clinton also won

 

P.S. Hilary Clition did win by the way!     



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Hillary Clinton wins Pennsylvania with a 10% win and 200,000 popular vote difference



Clinton 55%

1,165,536 popular vote



Obama 45%

961,331 popular vote




Not even getting into personal politics, Clinton has very little chance to get the party's nomination. It's just simple math. At the current delegate count, she needs higher than 60% of the vote in every remaining state just to barely nudge out Obama. PA was the last big state where she had a substantial lead going into the election (started at 20 points). Still, she only managed a 10 point victory, which was much lower than what she needed. It's enough to keep her going, but that's about it. The super delegates could swing the count in her favor. However, that would seriously damage the party's credibility since Obama is currently favored by the popular vote.

The Democratic primary is nuts though. I worked at my precincts polling station (about 14 hours ) and the turnout for democrats was gigantic. PA is a left leaning state, but they outnumbered the republicans by about 4:1.

On a side note, if you ever want to feel good about who you are, work an election day at a polling station. There are some...... "colorful" folks out there.



Phendrana said:

Not even getting into personal politics, Clinton has very little chance to get the party's nomination. It's just simple math. At the current delegate count, she needs higher than 60% of the vote in every remaining state just to barely nudge out Obama. PA was the last big state where she had a substantial lead going into the election (started at 20 points). Still, she only managed a 10 point victory, which was much lower than what she needed. It's enough to keep her going, but that's about it. The super delegates could swing the count in her favor. However, that would seriously damage the party's credibility since Obama is currently favored by the popular vote.

The Democratic primary is nuts though. I worked at my precincts polling station (about 14 hours ) and the turnout for democrats was gigantic. PA is a left leaning state, but they outnumbered the republicans by about 4:1.

On a side note, if you ever want to feel good about who you are, work an election day at a polling station. There are some...... "colorful" folks out there.


 Regarding the popular vote, I think she can still win the popular vote, she got 220,000 more today and is down by about 400,000+ which does NOT include Florida or Michigan. I feel the Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot by not counting these two states, otherwise the Repubs will claim them come fall. I think they should count Florida as it is and do a redo in Michigan. If they count Florida, she ties with him in popular vote and gets a substantial boost in delegate lead. She can still win this thing.

 

For the record I like both Obama and Clinton, but I also feel that Obama is the weaker candidate come general election. I hear GOP is already starting attacks on him this week in North Carolina about his association with terrorist Ayers, bitter comments and Pastor Disaster Wright. 



I feel the win today was a huge one for Clinton, who despite being outspent 3 to 1 won by a double digit margin and proved the polls wrong once again.

The next couple of weeks should be interesting.



ginaswo said:
I feel the win today was a huge one for Clinton, who despite being outspent 3 to 1 won by a double digit margin and proved the polls wrong once again.

The next couple of weeks should be interesting.

The polls originally had her up by 20 points. That's a whole 10 point difference than the actual results. Even before the election, almost every poll I saw had here winning the state by double digits. It was a victory, but not nearly as good as most people were predicting, or as good as she needed for that matter. Also, Obama only outspent her 2:1. Still a large difference, but it was money well spent considering it probably played a part in halving her lead.

Responding to your other post, I agree she could still win the popular. I added the "currently favored" just in case he ended up falling behind. Remember, though, that PA had a lot of Hillary support and was the biggest state left by a good margin. I don't see her getting nearly as many votes in upcoming states. As for Florida and Michigan, they both have their issues that need resolved. Michigan was an absolute mess considering Obama wasn't even on the ballot. Florida's a little different considering no candidate campaigned there. They need to reach some sort of compromise on what to do with those states. However, even if she was awarded the 38 delegates from the Florida results, she'd still be 100 delegates under. That leaves her requiring around 60% of the remaining delegates. I'm not saying a win is impossible, I'm just saying it's not very likely.