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Zippy6 on 25 April 2023
Machiavellian said:
Ryuu96 said:

Microsoft just needs to get Game Pass natively on Steamdeck.

I doubt that will happen. SteamDeck games when not using Windows uses OpenGL I believe for its rendering engine.  Thus downloading Windows type games when using on Steam OS will not work.  It would also take Valve to update SteamOS to run native windows apps which I doubt they will do because what would be the point of Steam OS. 

SteamOS can run almost all Windows games, it uses Proton to do this. SteamOS does not support DirectX so for games that only support DirectX it uses DXVK to run those games in Vulkan instead. The majority of Steam titles that run on the deck are just windows games.

The only thing stopping gamepass on steamos is all the Windows Services that Microsoft's launcher relies on as the Xbox App is still intrinsically linked to Microsoft Store which obviously does not work on SteamOS. The games themselves will work on SteamOS just fine and would just need MS to make a linux launcher/store app.



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DroidKnight on 25 April 2023



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EpicRandy on 25 April 2023
shikamaru317 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Below $1,000 isn't reassuring, that's a bit of a high ceiling

Below $1,000! It's $900!

Microsoft just needs to get Game Pass natively on Steamdeck.

Well, you have to remember that the Asus ROG Ally is quite alot more powerful than the Steam Deck, so it's stands to reason that it will cost more. The Ally is for people who want the most powerful handheld on the market today.

Steam Deck vs Asus ROG Ally

Steam Deck Asus ROG Ally basic Difference over Steam deck Asus ROG Ally premium Difference over Steam Deck
CPU AMD Zen 2, 4 cores/8 threads, 2.4-3.5 GHz variable frequency AMD Zen 4, 6 core/12 thread 2 generation newer CPU plus 2 more cores/4 more thread AMD Zen 4, 8 core/16 thread 2 generation newer CPU plus 4 more cores/8 more threads
GPU RDNA 2, 8 CU's, 1.0-1.6 GHz variable frequency, maximum of 1.6 tflops RDNA 3, 4 CU's, maximum of 2.8 tflops 1 generation newer GPU, maximum tflops increase of 1.2 RDNA 3, 12 CU's, maximum of 8.6 tflops 1 generation newer GPU, maximum tflops increase of 7
RAM  16 GB LPDDR5 at 88 GB/s 16 GB LPDDR5 (unknown speed) ?? 16 GB LPDDR5 (unknown speed) ??
Storage Steam Deck offers 3 options here at different price tiers, 64 Gb of slow eMMC, 256 GB mid speed SSD, and a 512 GB faster SSD 512 GB NVMe SSD should be equivalent to the high end Steam Deck SSD 512 GB NVMe SSD should be equivalent to the high end Steam Deck SSD
Display 7" 800p IPS, 60 hz max 7" 1080p IPS, 120 hz max, 500 nit (HDR capable), FreeSync capable higher resolution, higher refresh rate, FreeSync capable, and higher maximum brightness allowing HDR 7" 1080p IPS, 120 hz max, 500 nit (HDR capable) higher resolution, higher refresh rate, FreeSync capable, and higher maximum brightness allowing HDR
Weight 669 grams 608 grams 61 grams lighter 608 grams 61 grams lighter
Unique features Track pads
OS SteamOS (Windows can be installed but takes effort) CustomOS allowing for install of games from Steam, Epic Games Store, Xbox Game Pass for PC, Ubisoft Connect, the EA App, and more right out of the box. More native game support out of the box CustomOS allowing for install of games from Steam, Epic Games Store, Xbox Game Pass for PC, Ubisoft Connect, the EA App, and more right out of the box. More native game support out of the box
Price

3 tiers, Basic ($399), mid ($529), high ($650)

 Under $1,000 (we can assume they mean both models are under $1,000, meaning that the base model should be like $700 tops and then the premium closer to $1,000 with it's much more powerful chipset) Under $1,000 (we can assume they mean both models are under $1,000, meaning that the base mode should be like $700 tops and then the premium closer to $1,000 with it's much more powerful chipset)

Nice work on the comparison, if I may contribute, I think you can add "Support for external GPU" as unique features to the ROG Ally.



AJNShelton on 25 April 2023
Imaginedvl said:
Ryuu96 said:

The question is, is it a 30 or 60FPS dynamic background!

Sorry had to do it :D

You're the third saying that tho



Zippy6 on 25 April 2023

I seriously doubt the Z1 Extreme model is launching under $1,000. The Aya Neo Geek with a 6800u and 800p screen is $949 ($849 crowdfunding discount). The Z1 Extreme is basically the next-gen version of that chip and with a better screen. Asus ROG are hardly known as a line of products with aggressively low pricing.



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G2ThaUNiT on 25 April 2023
Zippy6 said:

I seriously doubt the Z1 Extreme model is launching under $1,000. The Aya Neo Geek with a 6800u and 800p screen is $949 ($849 crowdfunding discount). The Z1 Extreme is basically the next-gen version of that chip and with a better screen. Asus ROG are hardly known as a line of products with aggressively low pricing.

Yeah that Z1 Extreme will have to be put handhelds so powerful and expensive that it’ll have to replace your standalone desktop lol



DroidKnight on 25 April 2023



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DroidKnight on 25 April 2023



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coolbeans on 25 April 2023

Since it hasn't been posted yet...



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G2ThaUNiT on 25 April 2023
coolbeans said:

Since it hasn't been posted yet...

I don't think anyone will be surprised. Except for those that see MS as nothing more than a "big bad tech" they'll say this is just Sony doing good business.