Ryuu96 said: Judge Corley has brutalised the FTC so far... |
Yah I want to see how she will do with Microsoft... But the fact that she is using Microsoft economist as the baseline for any numbers is funny so far
Your most anticipated upcoming Xbox RPG in 2025? | |||
The Outer Worlds 2 | 2 | 11.11% | |
The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion remaster/remake | 6 | 33.33% | |
Fable | 7 | 38.89% | |
Avowed | 3 | 16.67% | |
Total: | 18 |
Ryuu96 said: Judge Corley has brutalised the FTC so far... |
Yah I want to see how she will do with Microsoft... But the fact that she is using Microsoft economist as the baseline for any numbers is funny so far
the FTC is really struggling here. Another lawyer has had to step up and try to explain as Judge Corley wants to know how this will harm consumers. She's all about Call of Duty https://t.co/aPQgk9JU8L
— Tom Warren (@tomwarren) June 29, 2023
All this over CoD which will remain multiplatform because it's sworn under oath and has a contract, Lmao.
Judge: Which Zenimax title is comparable to Call of Duty?
— Destin (@DestinLegarie) June 29, 2023
FTC: The Elder Scrolls
lol
They're clowns, she specifically asked with multiplayer too, Elder Scrolls 6 doesn't have multiplayer.
Ryuu96 said: Judge Corley has brutalised the FTC so far... |
She will need to in some form or another. If not, it will look like she wasn't being impartial.
...to avoid getting banned for inactivity, I may have to resort to comments that are of a lower overall quality and or beneath my moral standards.
Judge Corley: I understand that ... but you're using that to get to the foreclosure incentive. How do you calculate that number? It would have to be a high enough percentage of people who switch so it would be profitable for Microsoft.
— Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents) June 29, 2023
🧵32/X
Judge Corley gets back to the fact that Dr. Bailey (MSFT economic expert) showed number of hours people spend on CoD.
— Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents) June 29, 2023
It's clear that Dr. Bailey made a far stronger impression.
The FTC never had a case, and Lee is a newbie to the expert testimony game.
🧵34/X
Microsoft lawyer Wilkinson clarifies and drives the point home: the 20% is not the result of a model. Judge Corley: I thought it came from the share model? Wilkinson: no. He (FTC expert) doesn't have any basis.
— Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents) June 29, 2023
🧵36/X
Wilkinson recalls that if you change the input, you get a different number and that FTC expert can't point to a calculation.
— Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents) June 29, 2023
Judge Corley: "great" (ironically)
🧵38/X
(Leaked) Gameplay of the new Forza Motorsport 👀 https://t.co/N05vhgrrh8
— Idle Sloth💙💛 (@IdleSloth84_) June 29, 2023
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind
MS lawyer Beth Wilkinson says she thinks she can explain the FTC's expert report better: This 20 percent shift was invented.
— Michael Acton (@MActon93) June 29, 2023
Beautiful Moment.
ANOTHER point of failure identified: "notwithstanding the agreement with Nintendo", offer to Sony etc.
— Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents) June 29, 2023
So Judge Corley appears inclined to take (over the FTC's objection) those market realities into account when evaluating whether there is a foreclosure incentive.
🧵40/X
Judge Corley places significant weight on Dr. Bailey's focus on the extent to which gamers actually play CoD, i.e. how many hours per year, and the FTC always just gets back to sales data and suggests people don't spend $70 if they're not going to play it
— Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents) June 29, 2023
🧵42/X
They keep going in circles: FTC keeps coming back to popularity.
— Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents) June 29, 2023
Judge Corley: it's so popular. But a lot of people buy it and don't play it very much.
🧵44/X
Judge: can I ask you about Dr. Bailey's demonstrative? there was no dispute about it?
— Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents) June 29, 2023
They just reference it by a number. I guess that's about how many CoD customers spend how many hours per year and what that means in terms of revenues.
🧵46/X
Ryuu96 said:
Hoeg is hedging his bets. I respect his lawyer knowledge but honestly I think FTC has presented a terrible case and so do many others, including Hoeg himself at times saying they've put forth a weak case, they've not proven much, they've not proven this is damaging to consumers or competitors, it'd be weird to assume a win just cause it's a government agency, so I'd be shocked, I'm leaning towards likely FTC loses, having said that, I won't say 100% because of what happened with the CMA. |
A bit under 50/50? Idk how he thinks it's that close. FTC has shown zero substantial harm. I'd say more like 95-5% in favor of the PI being denied. Sounds like he's being conservative in that estimation.