The current conversation between the FTC lawyer and Phil Spencer is just mind blowingly trivial and stupid
— Benji-Sales (@BenjiSales) June 23, 2023
Just wasting time talking about completely useless information
HD Rumble anyone? lol
Switch can't do 4k/60fps therefore it's in a different market.
Bruh, Series S struggles with 4k/60fps too 
So will Switch 2 be a Gen 9 Console?
Or is it only if it can do 4K?
Are we dividing gens by resolution now? JFC.
Is FTC's entire line of questioning going to be trying to remove Switch from the market? Which still doesn't give an SLC to PlayStation, Lmao.
FTC now trying to prove its PS+Xbox and U.S.-only market by pointing to Microsoft-internal performance evaluations, key targets, and market share calculations.
— Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents) June 23, 2023
None of that will single-handedly decide market definition:
🧵19/X
It's also totally normal for companies to distinguish between geographic markets in which they have more or less market share, or more or less ambitious targets.
— Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents) June 23, 2023
The supply market (games being provided for consoles) was defined as worldwide by the CMA (FTC's only ally).
🧵21/X
Phil Spencer says he gets weekly reports on market share that relate to Sony, Nintendo, Xbox.
— Florian Mueller (@FOSSpatents) June 23, 2023
🧵23/X
(FTC may be taking MSFT docs out of context)
— Derek Strickland (@DeekeTweak) June 23, 2023
Why was that
— Derek Strickland (@DeekeTweak) June 23, 2023
My believe is the biggest drivers, because PS5 and Xbox Series X/S all launche don the same effective date
Why would that lead you and the GLT not to include Nintendo in calculation for shares of console
Because PS5 and Xbox Series X?S are in the same time in their lifecycle.
— Derek Strickland (@DeekeTweak) June 23, 2023
| Ryuu96 said: So will Switch 2 be a Gen 9 Console? |
Yes and so will affect past sales of PS5 and Series Consoles down. Didn't you know Tears of the Kingdom's direct competition is Ghost of Tsushima and Ori and the Will of the Wisps.
I hope the judge in the Xbox case plays Pentiment.
— Josh Sawyer but directed by Wes Anderson lol!!! (@jesawyer) June 23, 2023
(It sounds like the FTC is taking some of Microsoft's internal metrics out of context in order to make its high-performance console market definition, but the point about Xbox being more competitive in US than Europe is noteworthy. We can't see docs to be sure though)
— Derek Strickland (@DeekeTweak) June 23, 2023
The FTC's line of questioning is basically "Mr Spencer. Here in which you compared consoles which don't have a D in their name, you only compared PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X. Why is that Mr Spencer?"
Like bruh. They just picking and choosing metrics which don't include Switch to support their "Switch isn't in the console market"
Also...It's f*cking irrelevant who a business says is their main competitor when we're talking about a market. Just cause you say someone else is a main competitor doesn't mean everyone else isn't in the same market, I can't make a mobile phone and say it doesn't compete directly with Apple so it isn't in the same market, Lmao.
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I think console wars more reflects fans and social commentary, somewhat like sports fans.
— Derek Strickland (@DeekeTweak) June 23, 2023
Q The Xbox just didnt sell as say, sony?
— Derek Strickland (@DeekeTweak) June 23, 2023
We're behind Sony and Nintendo in console share globally.
Q Is Game Pass a reach bet to get off of consoles uses consoles as a catalyst
— Derek Strickland (@DeekeTweak) June 23, 2023
Game Pass is a business model that we believe has more [opportunity?]
Q Its a bet to get off of console, correct?
It is a bet to get every endpoint where everyone wants to play
"I would include Game Pass is available on console and PC, so it's inclusive of all of those."
— Derek Strickland (@DeekeTweak) June 23, 2023
Lawyer is floundering, keeps attempting gotcha's but failing.
Tried to bait Phil into saying they would leave console to chase Game Pass but failed so moved on quickly, Lol.
Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 23 June 2023
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