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Spade said:
gtotheunit91 said:

I think it will marginally be Starfield! While many are excited about FF16, there’s definitely concerns from hardcore fans about the combat and the lack of a party system. Whereas Starfield is going all in on what makes Bethesda games great, but in space.

Starfield - 91
FF16 - 88

Xbox is under pressure that none of the console makers have seen in years. They have to deliver. Redfall kinda f'ed things up where there be scores graded under the harshest of lights. Fallout 76 and Fallout 4... So much to prove. F4 got an 87 meta and that's the max i can see Starfield getting tbh. 

Plus... NO. 60. FPS.  

Bethesda openly admitted to being tired of Fallout lol. So that Fallout 4 87 meta was BGS without trying. You can tell they’re reinvigorated creatively with this new IP



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Spade said:
gtotheunit91 said:

I think it will marginally be Starfield! While many are excited about FF16, there’s definitely concerns from hardcore fans about the combat and the lack of a party system. Whereas Starfield is going all in on what makes Bethesda games great, but in space.

Starfield - 91
FF16 - 88

Xbox is under pressure that none of the console makers have seen in years. They have to deliver. Redfall kinda f'ed things up where there be scores graded under the harshest of lights. Fallout 76 and Fallout 4... So much to prove. F4 got an 87 meta and that's the max i can see Starfield getting tbh. 

Plus... NO. 60. FPS.  

I’m going to chose to believe that 60 FPS will be announced for the Series X during the Xbox Showcase.
And then you will understand that I know better!



DroidKnight said:

I'm going to believe Starfield will out perform FF, F the critics.

edit: not discussing fps

edit#2: longer legs as well

edit#3: a $60 bet needs to be upped to $70

edit#4: Ryuu is always watching

edit#5: Believe

Last edited by DroidKnight - on 30 May 2023

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DroidKnight said:
DroidKnight said:

I'm going to believe Starfield will out perform FF, F the critics.

edit: not discussing fps

edit#2: longer legs as well

edit#3: a $60 bet needs to be upped to $70

edit#4: Ryuu is always watching

edit#5: Believe

man we aint talkin legs, agreed with that 70... no comment oof. 

Ryuu can go f*ck himself, and nah FF clears Midfield, no offense to starfield.  



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gtotheunit91 said:
Spade said:

Xbox is under pressure that none of the console makers have seen in years. They have to deliver. Redfall kinda f'ed things up where there be scores graded under the harshest of lights. Fallout 76 and Fallout 4... So much to prove. F4 got an 87 meta and that's the max i can see Starfield getting tbh. 

Plus... NO. 60. FPS.  

Bethesda openly admitted to being tired of Fallout lol. So that Fallout 4 87 meta was BGS without trying. You can tell they’re reinvigorated creatively with this new IP

This dude really sayin 87 without tryin, you lookin like a ps twitter troll right now with these excuses pimp. They can reinvigorated like noble returning to Xbox, still going to be a mid. I was told that ever since Xbox got Bethesda quality has gone down. Kappa. 



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Very happy to see Diablo 4 reviewed so well, can't wait to play it.



gtotheunit91 said:
Spade said:

Xbox is under pressure that none of the console makers have seen in years. They have to deliver. Redfall kinda f'ed things up where there be scores graded under the harshest of lights. Fallout 76 and Fallout 4... So much to prove. F4 got an 87 meta and that's the max i can see Starfield getting tbh. 

Plus... NO. 60. FPS.  

Bethesda openly admitted to being tired of Fallout lol. So that Fallout 4 87 meta was BGS without trying. You can tell they’re reinvigorated creatively with this new IP

TELL EM G2



                                                                                     

shikamaru317 said:

Very happy to see Diablo 4 reviewed so well, can't wait to play it.

Same.  I've partially watched 3 reviews, but have stopped once end game content starts to be discussed. I didn't play the Beta, but am excited to jump in.  



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I would be shocked if FF16 beats Starfield personally. I have not been all that impressed by what I have seen of FF16 so far. The combat is very DMC while I would have preferred FF7 Remake like combat. The character designs feel more western than JP, especially in terms of clothing, and the architecture as well feels very western to me, not what I want out of a JRPG. No proper party members, only limited time only single companions, and you can't play as them. The graphics are largely lackluster for a current gen exclusive (was recently revealed that it was planned to be cross-gen but PS4 support was dropped partway through development so cross-gen explains the lackluster graphics). I see some good in FF16, the summon stuff seems good, and I like that they implemented Nier Automata like player assists. But overall, it doesn't look much better than FF15 to me, and FF15 got like an 83 average, so I'm thinking maybe 85-86 for FF16.

As for Starfield, here is what we know: 1) 3 of the last 5 Bethesda singleplayer RPG's won GOTY, while all 5 were nominated for GOTY. Of those, 3 of the 5 reviewed 90+, the other 2, Morrowind and Fallout 4, both got an 88 average. 2) Bethesda has put 4x as many man hours into Starfield than any of their previous games, it has been in development twice as long as their previous longest in development game, and the core dev team is roughly double the size of Fallout 4's dev team. 3) Bethesda's Creation Engine 2 is supposedly largely rebuilt from the ground up, and therefore shouldn't be nearly as wonky as Bethesda's previous games which used Gamebryo and Creation Engine 1. 4) Starfield was reportedly content complete last fall, roughly a year ahead of it's September 2023 release, that is a year to optimize the game and fix bugs, far longer than Bethesda has ever spent polishing their previous games, and they also have Xbox Quality Assurance resources at their disposal. 5) Starfield is releasing on one less platform than their past games did, due to dropping PS5 support, that means one less platform to optimize the game for and 1 less platform to squash platform specific bugs on.

I am confident that Starfield will review 90+, more confident of it than many of my other meta predictions so far this year (and my predictions this year have been largely good except for a few outliers, I am doing particularly well in the multiplat Opencritic prediction league, nailing my 89 prediction for Diablo 4 just today).

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 30 May 2023