I agree, which is the reason why I wont get a 360. I am only interested in 5 of those games, and that is enough for me to get a PS3. But not for a while.

 Woah, i just noticed that basically all of PS3's "good" games which are coming out are just... sequels. Its kinda offputting for me, and seems kinda tragic.

I would, personally, get the 360 for free and buy games and Xbox live for the $200. When i buy a console, i want a console, not a BluRay player, and to me a PS3s main (if not only) attraction is Bluray. This is why i dont like it so much, people are like " well we have bluray! haha", but i buy a console for games, and atm thats what the PS3 is seriously lacking.

 If u want an HD player, buy a PS3. If you want a console for games, buy the 360, and then at a later date buy the HD-DVD adapter if you so wish :P

Well, I would say that the main attraction to a non-gamer is the BR. That is the reason why Sony included it. In fact, IMO, the only reason the majority of people are buying PS3's now is because of the BR player. Wedbush Morgan analyst predicts that the overall winner of the consoler war will be the PS3, because BR will win the format war. However, if HDDVD wins the format war, then Sony may have a problem in their hands.

And both are better suited for my Mouse, and hence, will be played if released on PC.