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Jump Rope Challenge is free.



Kakadu18 said:

Jump Rope Challenge is free.

Yes, and apparently according to a commenter, "JSK" porn games are free, too lol

Hiku said:

I've had some good experiences with F2P games, and on Thursday there's another potentially big one.

I'm excited to try it, because even in a worst case scenario, at least I get to try the full game for free, and it won't be like with Diablo 3 where I had to pay $60 for servers that wouldn't work Day 1, a pretty shitty game once you managed to get in, and that $60 investment wasn't saved until I dropped another $20 for the Reaper of Souls expansion, which did salvage the game and turned it into a good one.

Yea, and I mentioned the same thing to someone else who was against microtransactions in any game that the benefit of free games is that you don't pay a penny to play it until you feel like you want to give them a penny.

Having said that, I wonder how Diablo Immortal will impact Lost Ark since a lot of Lost Ark's basis is designed to attract the whole D&D and Diablo crowd (which it seems to be doing a good job at based on its continued player counts).



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I just changed my avatar because of this
https://www.eurogamer.net/that-lovely-looking-ni-no-kuni-mmo-is-full-of-cryptocurrency-woes

Then I found this
https://opensea.io/collection/miyazaki-garden

And this
https://twitter.com/ghibliinu?lang=en

It hurts when your heroes turn to the dark side.

Ni No Kuni 2 on Switch, no buy. Level-5 is dead to me.

Ghibli why??? All I wanted is your movies remastered in 4K, I would collect them all again. Now I'm done buying Ghibli stuff, done.



SvennoJ said:

I just changed my avatar because of this
https://www.eurogamer.net/that-lovely-looking-ni-no-kuni-mmo-is-full-of-cryptocurrency-woes

Then I found this
https://opensea.io/collection/miyazaki-garden

And this
https://twitter.com/ghibliinu?lang=en

It hurts when your heroes turn to the dark side.

Ni No Kuni 2 on Switch, no buy. Level-5 is dead to me.

Ghibli why??? All I wanted is your movies remastered in 4K, I would collect them all again. Now I'm done buying Ghibli stuff, done.

You can buy used copies.



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Kakadu18 said:
SvennoJ said:

I just changed my avatar because of this
https://www.eurogamer.net/that-lovely-looking-ni-no-kuni-mmo-is-full-of-cryptocurrency-woes

Then I found this
https://opensea.io/collection/miyazaki-garden

And this
https://twitter.com/ghibliinu?lang=en

It hurts when your heroes turn to the dark side.

Ni No Kuni 2 on Switch, no buy. Level-5 is dead to me.

Ghibli why??? All I wanted is your movies remastered in 4K, I would collect them all again. Now I'm done buying Ghibli stuff, done.

You can buy used copies.

That's still supporting them, just in a roundabout way.

Anyway I did some more digging. None of the Ghibli / Miyazaki stuff seems to be official nor endorsed. It all seems to be plagiarism, copyright and trademark infringement, stolen artwork etc. These NFT peddlers have absolutely no morals, scum of the earth. Luckily it didn't work out for them. Miyazaki Inu crashed and is down to 1 E-18 cents. Miyazaki garden isn't selling on OpenSea.

I should have known, this looks so amateurish
https://morioh.com/p/6304a4f734f3
It's just that the stuff on OpenSea looks like what Ghibli could have produced. But that's the point of course, blatant plagiarism and copyright infringement.

Level-5 however is directly involved with Ni No Kuni MMO, so they are in on it and on the NFT bandwagon. So for supporting something that made me doubt my heroes, they're even further in the hole!

Meanwhile I have updated my avatars everywhere to reflect my stance on NFTs...


What's worse than free games with micro transactions, full price games with macro transactions. GT7 with its ability to spend $5000 dollars on buying all the cars. You can grind for them of course, yet after PD crawled back a little after the initial backlash from nerfing the payouts, they're at it again. Prices of in game cars are going up (to reflect real world prices they claim) while they have patched the one way to make some decent money, lowered the payouts again for online races (which were already far too low) and only added a couple new races with again lower payouts.

I've been grinding the glitch to get the cars I wanted to make endurance races with. (Still took me about 30 hours of grinding total) 345 million credits total used (Don't have all cars yet, but got all last century cars for classic endurance races). That's $3,450 in micro transactions ($20 per 2 mil) or about 7,000 hours or regular gameplay. (Based on average earnings doing custom and online races) Play 3 hours a day, that's over 6 years of playing daily.



SvennoJ said:

I just changed my avatar because of this
https://www.eurogamer.net/that-lovely-looking-ni-no-kuni-mmo-is-full-of-cryptocurrency-woes

Then I found this
https://opensea.io/collection/miyazaki-garden

And this
https://twitter.com/ghibliinu?lang=en

It hurts when your heroes turn to the dark side.

Ni No Kuni 2 on Switch, no buy. Level-5 is dead to me.

Ghibli why??? All I wanted is your movies remastered in 4K, I would collect them all again. Now I'm done buying Ghibli stuff, done.

...Wat?

SvennoJ said:
Kakadu18 said:

You can buy used copies.

That's still supporting them, just in a roundabout way.

Anyway I did some more digging. None of the Ghibli / Miyazaki stuff seems to be official nor endorsed. It all seems to be plagiarism, copyright and trademark infringement, stolen artwork etc. These NFT peddlers have absolutely no morals, scum of the earth. Luckily it didn't work out for them. Miyazaki Inu crashed and is down to 1 E-18 cents. Miyazaki garden isn't selling on OpenSea.

I should have known, this looks so amateurish
https://morioh.com/p/6304a4f734f3
It's just that the stuff on OpenSea looks like what Ghibli could have produced. But that's the point of course, blatant plagiarism and copyright infringement.

Level-5 however is directly involved with Ni No Kuni MMO, so they are in on it and on the NFT bandwagon. So for supporting something that made me doubt my heroes, they're even further in the hole!

Meanwhile I have updated my avatars everywhere to reflect my stance on NFTs...


What's worse than free games with micro transactions, full price games with macro transactions. GT7 with its ability to spend $5000 dollars on buying all the cars. You can grind for them of course, yet after PD crawled back a little after the initial backlash from nerfing the payouts, they're at it again. Prices of in game cars are going up (to reflect real world prices they claim) while they have patched the one way to make some decent money, lowered the payouts again for online races (which were already far too low) and only added a couple new races with again lower payouts.

I've been grinding the glitch to get the cars I wanted to make endurance races with. (Still took me about 30 hours of grinding total) 345 million credits total used (Don't have all cars yet, but got all last century cars for classic endurance races). That's $3,450 in micro transactions ($20 per 2 mil) or about 7,000 hours or regular gameplay. (Based on average earnings doing custom and online races) Play 3 hours a day, that's over 6 years of playing daily.

Oh... It looks like you got played or something

Hiku said:

So I've been playing Diablo Immortal for a a few hours. Played with a couple of friends, and the core game seems like a big improvement over Diablo 3 when it comes to quality of life stuff, UI/UX, etc.

I have not yet noticed any monetization issues, but that may very well be because I'm early in the game.
Because I am seeing people complain about it on Youtube.

Gonna watch in a bit. Not sure if it's something that I will feel affected by, but judging by the harsh words, it may be.

I mean, free to play games WILL have microtransactions, they WILL put things behind extreme grinds or paywalls.  If it doesn't affect you or your enjoyment, then I don't really see an issue.

Think of it this way, Other Guy pays money so he can advance faster, or be more powerful, or any number of things.  But does the Other Guy make your character harder to play, less effective, does it take away from your skill level, does it make the game harder for you to play at all?  If not, I would think it's no bother.  I've never been bothered by whales (though I laugh at them a bit because I can't IMAGINE spending thousands on a videogame...), and surely many others aren't, either.  I don't care that someone has WAYYY better built characters in Genshin that do double the damage of mine, I still kill enemies and can succeed at every facet of the game with what's completely free.

BasilZero said:

Only F2P game I am playing now is Final Fantasy Record Keeper for iOS/iphone

I been playing it since its launch back in 2015 and havent paid a single penny for the MTX.

Dont see any reason to as my party is already pretty OP by natural progression.







Come on, did you REALLY need to post all those screenshots that most of us won't know the meaning of? lol



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BasilZero said:
ZyroXZ2 said:

Come on, did you REALLY need to post all those screenshots that most of us won't know the meaning of? lol

Okay, I wont post on any more of your threads again.



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