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Syria’s new government terminated a treaty granting Russia a long-term military presence in the Mediterranean, a deal brokered under ousted leader Bashar al-Assad, Syrian media reported Tuesday.

The de facto authorities in Tartus reportedly annulled the agreement and demanded the immediate withdrawal of Russian forces, the Syrian opposition news outlet Shaam reported Monday, citing the regime’s ministry of information.

Authorities also said that revenue from the port would “now benefit the Syrian state,” reversing the previous agreement under which Russia received 65% of Tartus’ profits. The report added that Syria’s new leadership may investigate the treaty’s economic impact on the country.

Syria Terminates Russian Naval Base Deal – Reports - The Moscow Times

Wow. Bye Bitch.

I wouldn't have blamed them if they didn't do this, I know they must hate Russia but they're in a very delicate situation and it would be understandable if they didn't want to pick a fight with Russia but respect to them for doing so. This is a big blow to Russia. I can only imagine the new Syrian Government feels like Russia is too weak to do anything in response and will accept it and fuck off.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 22 January 2025

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BFR said:

As long as pres trump doesn't make Ukraine give up land for peace or face other humiliating terms of agreement then we will all be happy



shavenferret said:
BFR said:

As long as pres trump doesn't make Ukraine give up land for peace or face other humiliating terms of agreement then we will all be happy

Trump might have realized that he can't just abandon Ukraine, but that doesn't mean he's going to support Ukraine to what is essentially victory.



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Zkuq said:
shavenferret said:

As long as pres trump doesn't make Ukraine give up land for peace or face other humiliating terms of agreement then we will all be happy

Trump might have realized that he can't just abandon Ukraine, but that doesn't mean he's going to support Ukraine to what is essentially victory.

You can't win a war via sanctions alone, Russia's economy is doomed either way so the threat of further sanctions is hardly going to move Putin, the only thing that will is military force. Lets wait and see a few months, I can easily imagine a scenario where Trump is using these recent sanction comments to look "tough" and then turning around a few months from now and saying that Ukraine is the one being unreasonable and pulling support, that way he looks like he actually did something in terms of standing up to Russia but makes an excuse later to throw Ukraine under the bus. The threat of further sanctions is welcome but will not scare Russia out of the war.



Ryuu96 said:
Zkuq said:

Trump might have realized that he can't just abandon Ukraine, but that doesn't mean he's going to support Ukraine to what is essentially victory.

You can't win a war via sanctions alone, Russia's economy is doomed either way so the threat of further sanctions is hardly going to move Putin, the only thing that will is military force. Lets wait and see a few months, I can easily imagine a scenario where Trump is using these recent sanction comments to look "tough" and then turning around a few months from now and saying that Ukraine is the one being unreasonable and pulling support, that way he looks like he actually did something in terms of standing up to Russia but makes an excuse later to throw Ukraine under the bus. The threat of further sanctions is welcome but will not scare Russia out of the war.

This is quite correct, as the Russians seem to be ok with hardship and even death sometimes.