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Ukraine has night-vision drones now, and they are made in Ukraine and the military gets a bulk discount i'm sure

https://www.dagens.com/war/ukrainian-night-vision-drones-hit-russian-troops-under-cover-of-darkness



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The Germans have ordered 17 IRIS-T anti air systems for Ukraine.

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/scholz-germany-orders-17-iris-t-air-defense-systems-for-ukraine/#google_vignette



Bofferbrauer2 said:
shavenferret said:

As a possible follow up to my previous post, Russia warns the U.S. against supplying Ukraine with JASSM, since this would be another red-line and Russia is one tough hombre yadda yadda yadda. This could mean that Ukraine is about to get some JASSM's, which would be fired from its planes. Here is the article i'm referring to:

https://www.dagens.com/war/russia-warns-u-s-against-crossing-red-lines-with-jassm-missile-supplies

One more for the list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_lines_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

New red line just dropped.

'Don't Joke About Our Red Lines,' Russia Warns US - Newsweek

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 05 September 2024

A russian "spy whale" was shot and killed. RIP

https://www.dagens.com/war/how-hvaldimir-russias-spy-beluga-died-signs-point-to-possible-foul-play



American military fighter jets regularly patrolled and performed fighter maneuvers in the Taiwan Strait, which led to formal protests being regularly lodged by the Chinese Communist Party in the form of a "final warning". The People's Republic of China released its first "final warning" to the United States on 7 September 1958 during the Second Taiwan Strait Crisis. By the end of 1964, more than 900 such "final warnings" had been issued. However, no real consequences were levied for ignoring the "final warnings".

These protests were frequently broadcast on Soviet radio, "voiced by announcer Yuri Levitan in his solemn voice", which led to general awareness of the "final warnings" among the Soviet populace and common use of the term "China's final warning" within Soviet households to refer to empty threats. Citizens would often add numbers to the phrase for added humorous effect, such as "231st final Chinese warning" and "850th final Chinese warning". Since the 1972 Shanghai Communiqué that warmed US-China relations, the phrase has continued being used in reference to fruitless warnings in situations unrelated to politics or China.

China's Final Warning - Wikipedia

China Watching Karma Come to Russia.



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shavenferret said:

The Germans have ordered 17 IRIS-T anti air systems for Ukraine.

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/scholz-germany-orders-17-iris-t-air-defense-systems-for-ukraine/#google_vignette

They are getting another Patriot soon though.



Munition dropped by drone onto Russian (military) shelter, notice the night vision cameras in use

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Cm_9fXU8XqQ

Last edited by shavenferret - on 06 September 2024

Canada will send 10 NASAMS systems to Ukraine in early 2025

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/canada-to-transfer-nasams-for-ukraine-in-early-2025/



shavenferret said:

Canada will send 10 NASAMS systems to Ukraine in early 2025

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/canada-to-transfer-nasams-for-ukraine-in-early-2025/

Still a ways off, but since they are coming fresh from the production lines, it always takes a while.

The question now is which NASAMS will be sent, NASAM 1, 2 or 3? Since NASAM 3 just got developed 5 years ago and there not being any mention of AMRAAM-ER or AIM-9X, I suspect it's still gonna be NASAM 2 to avoid latest tech potentially falling into Russian hands.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
shavenferret said:

Canada will send 10 NASAMS systems to Ukraine in early 2025

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/canada-to-transfer-nasams-for-ukraine-in-early-2025/

Still a ways off, but since they are coming fresh from the production lines, it always takes a while.

The question now is which NASAMS will be sent, NASAM 1, 2 or 3? Since NASAM 3 just got developed 5 years ago and there not being any mention of AMRAAM-ER or AIM-9X, I suspect it's still gonna be NASAM 2 to avoid latest tech potentially falling into Russian hands.

I agree, and it seems like Ukraine never gets the best models.  But, they don't need to since fighting against soviet era technology in many cases.