Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

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shavenferret on 13 August 2024

Ryuu96 said:

crissindahouse said:

Would be a good moment for Poland to transfer their equipment to Belarus considering they transfer theirs to Russia lol. Man, I guess Russia will take that area back in some weeks/months but they look so damn weak. Without North Korea, Iran and now Belarus they would be so so done and that's with fighting against Ukraine who mostly got Western equipment not needed anymore by the other countries (except for some CV90 and a few other weaponry)

And delays, and a million different restrictions.

The Belarusian equipment is probably better than the shit Russians are using right now. Hopefully Putin bleeds Belarus military dry and then Belarusians can finally drag Lukashenko's ass into the streets. Would be time to lift the long-range weapon restriction so that Ukraine can just blow up anything that comes across the Belarus border into Russia.

Belarus doesn't have that much spare equipment to give Russia, even if they are paying top dollar for everything. Options are running out.......

Do they:

-go to Africa and beg them for old soviet equipment that probably hasn't been maintained too well?

-Use shitty North Korean equipment?

-Use mostly infantry when tanks, IFV's and artillery run out?

-start fielding real divisions instead of the shitty border troops?

-Just give up?

I think the real troops plan seems best, but it will take a little while for substantial numbers of troops to kick ukraine out. And they'll have to thin out from elsewhere.

Last edited by shavenferret - on 13 August 2024

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Farsala on 14 August 2024

The Ukrainian invasion of Russia is genius. Multiple reasons have been mentioned before so I want to highlight a new one.

Russia can't simply obliterate everything in order to advance like they have been in Donbas. Or maybe they will.

If they do, Ukraine doesn't care so much that Russia is obliterating their own cities and infrastructure.

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BFR on 14 August 2024

Russian forces are rapidly digging a network of trenches in Kursk Oblast, with only one catch:

The trenches are 45km behind the border.

Russian forces have been developing a trench network that, if fallen back to, would cede Ukraine a massive amount of territory. pic.twitter.com/dXje3n1qn8
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) August 14, 2024

https://t.co/IKd1YCxi54 pic.twitter.com/kRlyyjNR6h
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) August 14, 2024

Ukrainian forces have seized the Russian town of Plekhovo, Kursk Oblast, further expanding their area of control along the Russian border.

Seen here, a group of Ukrainian infantry stand in front of the captured Plekhovo House of Culture. pic.twitter.com/9AwLRaMtud
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) August 14, 2024

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Ryuu96 on 14 August 2024

Baza: Russian authorities are strengthening security measures in the city of Moscow due to the risk of an infiltration by sabotage groups.

According to sources, police officers have been warned of possible attempts to seize their weapons.

Ad hoc reserves are being formed… pic.twitter.com/5YJEBWJzyu
— Status-6 (Military & Conflict News) (@Archer83Able) August 13, 2024

Ukrainian soldiers posted this video from what appears to be the Plan Street in the village of Plekhovo in Kursk region — with one of the locals greeting them with Slava Ukraini, or Glory to Ukraine. Not likely to be a widely shared sentiment, but it happened. https://t.co/M7CpKj37kV pic.twitter.com/Dzy4ZT5Jo6
— Yaroslav Trofimov (@yarotrof) August 13, 2024

More and more messages of conscripts sent to Kursk region. Barely trained with no experience.
Clearly Putin doesn’t want to stop Russian advances on Ukrainian soil. And there is an obvious shortage of men to spare for defending Kursk
— Anton Barbashin (@ABarbashin) August 13, 2024

Russia to send evacuees from Kursk Region to Ukraine’s occupied Zaporizhzhia Oblast

As per the Kursk governor, a number of people evacuated from areas currently under Ukrainian military control will be relocated to Russian-occupied southern Ukraine.https://t.co/tZ03dgoiJC
— The Insider (@InsiderEng) August 13, 2024

"Relatives of servicemen of military unit #72164 claim that the personnel of this unit were defeated in a column near Rylsk. At the same time, they are not given bodies, and official agencies do not provide information."https://t.co/xnQl5pPG7P
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Ryuu96 on 14 August 2024

Fighterbomber is already complaining about the attack overnight.

“Last night, Ukrainian forces attacked three Russian airfields. Some attacks were effective. The issue persists: the farther an airfield is from the front line, the more civilian activity it has. Relying on just… https://t.co/7AfCmp2o5w pic.twitter.com/6KpdhXDCaI
— NOELREPORTS 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 (@NOELreports) August 14, 2024

#Kursk Offensive confirmed equipment losses as of 13 August 2024

In summary:
29 Ukrainian 🇺🇦 losses vs. 22 Russian 🇷🇺 losses

This list includes all losses in Kursk Oblast, Russia and Sumy Oblast, Ukraine since the offensive began on 06 August 2024.

Spreadsheet showing the… pic.twitter.com/Uc2NOpLMoZ
— Naalsio (@naalsio26) August 14, 2024

While we can only guess the outcome of the offensive yet, the current achievements will free many Ukrainian soldiers. Have thanks Pentamon community for collecting the data @DefMon3 and thanks @Danspiun for some of the counting 2/
— Geschlittert (@geschlittert) August 13, 2024

9th MRR (в/ч 38838), 18th MRD, 11th Kaliningrad Army Corps.
Allegedly POWs captured in Kursk.
Previous unit location: Lyptsi https://t.co/9PTAL3Qti4 https://t.co/rlQPj9JQ5r pic.twitter.com/lx4GR7nnkG
— imi (m) (@moklasen) August 13, 2024

Zaoleshensky suburb of Sudzha, under AFU control pic.twitter.com/i9kzJUNIJh
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Ryuu96 on 14 August 2024

Russia has long recognized this issue, focusing on point defense of important objects rather than general area defense.

It doesn't help either of course that most of its roughly 100 S-300/400 battalions are deployed around Ukraine or Moscow at this point.

2/2
— Fabian Hoffmann (@FRHoffmann1) August 14, 2024

En. pic.twitter.com/q2ePblF8JL
— Glynn 'Clappo' Quelch 🇪🇺🇬🇧🇪🇪 (@Clappo7) August 14, 2024

From a soldier contact of mine fighting in the Pokrovsk area- feel this pretty much sums up how the effects of Kursk are felt there. This is the morale boost that matters, not everyone else sharing memes from their comfortable homes. pic.twitter.com/DrnFMLp9nR
— Francis Farrell (@francisjfarrell) August 14, 2024

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crissindahouse on 14 August 2024

Ryuu96 said:

Baza: Russian authorities are strengthening security measures in the city of Moscow due to the risk of an infiltration by sabotage groups.

According to sources, police officers have been warned of possible attempts to seize their weapons.

Ad hoc reserves are being formed… pic.twitter.com/5YJEBWJzyu
— Status-6 (Military & Conflict News) (@Archer83Able) August 13, 2024

or is it more about preventing that any anti war demonstration could ever happen? To let his sheep beat everyone to the ground who would dare to hold some sign against his politics in his hand is Putins favorite act as President.

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Ryuu96 on 14 August 2024

Really makes you wonder how much worse it would be for Russia had Ukraine not felt pressured to do an offensive in 2023 and instead saved those forces for this offensive into Russia, I think the West expected too much of Ukraine to charge into minefields and artillery with next to no air-support, the West doesn't fight wars like Ukraine has to, they just aerial bomb the living fuck out of whoever it is and only then do they send the troops in when they achieve air superiority.