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What an idiot, Lol.

Found out that he doesn't make all the decisions for his country.





Russian Torture of Ukrainians Amounts to State Policy, Expert Says - The New York Times

The Biden administration is close to approving the shipment of longer-range missiles packed with cluster bombs to Ukraine, giving Kyiv the ability to cause significant damage deeper within Russian-occupied territory, according to four U.S. officials.

After seeing the success of cluster munitions delivered in 155 mm artillery rounds in recent months, the U.S. is considering shipping either or both Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS) that can fly up to 190 miles (306 km), or Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) missiles with a 45-mile range packed with cluster bombs, three U.S. officials said.

If approved, either option would be available for rapid shipment to Kyiv.

Exclusive: Ukraine Could Get Long-Range Missiles Armed With US Cluster Bombs - Officials | Reuters

Ukraine is pushing the U.S. to greenlight the delivery of ATACMS by next week's U.N. General Assembly attended by Biden and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Officials in Kyiv said they're expecting some good news on that front after the Ukrainian leader touches down in New York City.

But U.S. officials say that timeline is too tight. A decision by Biden on sending ATACMS for Ukraine's use against Russian forces would almost certainly come after the annual Turtle Bay confab.

The administration has long been skeptical of providing ATACMS to Ukraine. Last year, national security adviser Jake Sullivan told an Aspen Security Forum audience that Biden wanted "to ensure that we don't get into a situation in which we are approaching the Third World War." Sending missiles that Ukraine could launch into Russia would increase that risk, he said.

Biden Inches Toward Decision on Long-Range Missiles as Ukraine Ups Pressure - POLITICO

Here is the part you might not have heard, or not registered: The same team launched a similar attack again a few weeks later. On October 29, a fleet of guided sea drones packed with explosives did reach Sebastopol harbor, using a different communications system. They did hit their targets. They put one Russian frigate, the Admiral Makarov, out of commission. The team believes that they damaged at least one submarine and at least two other boats as well.

And then? Nuclear war did not follow. Despite Musk's fears, in other words—fears put into his head by the Russian ambassador, or perhaps by Putin himself—World War III did not erupt as a result of this successful attack on a Crimean port. Instead, the Russian naval commanders were spooked by the attack, so much so that they stuck close to Sebastopol harbor over the following weeks.

Elon Musk Let Russia Scare Him - The Atlantic

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Ryuu96 said:

What an idiot, Lol.

Found out that he doesn't make all the decisions for his country.

Shame he withdrew it, now Putin may not go lol.



 

 

Cobretti2 said:
Ryuu96 said:

What an idiot, Lol.

Found out that he doesn't make all the decisions for his country.

Shame he withdrew it, now Putin may not go lol.

It's a shame about him because domestically he seems good for Brazil (at least better than that other moron) but like Corbyn (who I once liked) he is fucking braindead when it comes to international politics.

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How long until we get another peace plan proposal from Musk?

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday waded into the debate over the criminal charges faced by Republican election candidate Donald Trump, saying the cases against the former U.S. president amount to political "persecution" and expose U.S. weakness.

"This shows the whole rottenness of the American political system, which cannot claim to teach others about democracy," Putin said in an appearance at the Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok, an annual event aimed at showcasing the Russian government's development plans. "What's happening with Trump is a persecution of a political rival for political motives."

Putin's comments echo repeated statements made by Trump, who faces a total of 13 charges at the federal and state levels alleging a criminal racketeering scheme in which he pressured public officials and conspired to commit forgery, create false statements and file false documents.

Putin Calls Trump Charges Political ‘Persecution’ - WSJ

Meanwhile...

Kremlin Says Putin Has No Real Competitors If He Runs Again | Reuters

Jailed Russian Opposition Leader Alexey Navalny Gets 19 More Years in Prison - ABC News

‘You May Have Been Poisoned’: How an Independent Russian Journalist Became a Target | Russia | The Guardian

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Kim Jong-Un Arrives in Russia to Meet Putin as US Threatens Sanctions | North Korea | The Guardian

Britain Orders More Munitions as Ukraine War Boosts UK Defence | Reuters

Sweden to Consider Sending Fighter Jets to Ukraine - Reports



The latest Russian tank T-90M Breakthrough, which Russian propaganda calls "the best in the world", which "has no analogues", was knocked out and captured by Ukrainian soldiers in the battles for the village of Robotino, Zaporizhzhia region. An unknown crew of the Ukrainian anti-tank missile system or the operator of the infantry fighting vehicle Bradley hit the vulnerable point of the tank turret worth more than $4 million with a missile, burned a hole in the armor, and the Russian commander was slightly smeared with a shaped charge. But there was no fire, the tank did not fail and remained almost intact and repairable. And the fighters of the separate assault battalion "Skala" captured this tank. Tomorrow we will show the unboxing of the brand new T-90M Breakthrough, manufactured in 2022. Glory to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Butusov Yuriy: Trophy T90M Breakthrough Captured in the Battles for Robotino (12.09.23 16:54) « War in Ukraine | Censor.NET