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crissindahouse said:

If Prighozin wouldn't be such an asshole and Wagner so disgusting I would hope to see him win but in this case I want him to do as much damage as possible to the Russian military and still lose. Ukraine just needs their country back and Russia needs to be even less relevant economical (especially for China). But this guy would probably even like to throw some nukes on Ukraine just to show strenght.

They're all disgusting Tbf. Sure, Wagner is more disgusting than Russia but it's close enough for them to blend in.

I've 0 fear of Prigozhin using nukes. He's disgusting but not both insane and suicidal. He's a businessman first and foremost, look at their African exploits, Wagner is almost self sustaining due to Africa and Prigozhin mostly doesn't like the war because he sees it as a waste.

Anyone who uses a nuke knows there's no going back, they'll be in a bunker for the rest of their lives, the West will respond, it won't stop Ukraine either, even China will likely respond, Prigozhin will have nobody.

Hell I'd argue there's more chance of America convincing Prigozhin to dismantle their nukes in exchange for sanction relief and financial incentives than there is Prigozhin actually using them (and the former is low too).

Large part of his "rants" leading up to this were just for show, a way to rile up the base, a way to turn people against the MoD.

But yeah lets hope they kill each other.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 24 June 2023

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Putin had a call with Lukashenka. Funny If Belarus will save Russia's ass in Russia with military support.





crissindahouse said:

Putin had a call with Lukashenka. Funny If Belarus will save Russia's ass in Russia with military support.

I read unconfirmed comments that a plane of Lukashenko went to Turkey, Lmfao.

Unconfirmed and not confirmed even if true that he was on it.

Now would be the perfect opportunity for Belarus to finally give Russia the middle finger but Lukashenko is too much of a coward to do that.



NY Times: Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, who controls a sizeable group of soldiers, said that his forces are en route to the "zones of tension" and called Prigozhin's mutiny "a knife in the back.



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Kadyrov's chance to save Putin's ass and become upgraded from lapdog to something more.

Lets see how well TikTok Brigade do against Wagner.





What I've learned from all of this is that KFC still loves Russian money so that I need to change the side of the road when I see one



So far little resistance but Tbf most of Russia's army is in Ukraine, Riot Cops aren't going to do shit and they've yet to encounter the FSB or Kadyrov's Forces, both who will be loyal to Putin but FSB is likely hauled around Moscow and Kadyrov's forces are likely being pulled from Chechen now.

They will need to hurry up and cut this off.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 24 June 2023